Thread: Russian thema in western movies. Dumb and dumber?

Originally Posted by Dobry

Now for a real twist...for Russians...

Imagine the following...THIS IS PURELY A HYPOTHESIS!

What if Hollywood produces a movie of Omon Ra???
(None of this is meant to be disrespectful of Pelevin...it is only a hypothesis for discussion as a "what if?".

Seems absolutely unprobable.
Pelevin is way too much esoteric for Hollywood.

Originally Posted by Dobry

Viktor Pelevin decides he wants to make a movie of Omon Ra (on my "best books" list...and I discovered Pelevin because of several Russian friends in Moscow...NOT from America). On a side-note, in America, Pelevin is a very respected writer.

Does anybody besides american "intellectuals" read his books?

Originally Posted by Dobry

He cannot find support in Russia, so he travels to America. Hollywood agrees to make the movie. But Pelevin agrees only if he has complete artistic control. He controls the making of the movie. He returns to Russia, uses only Russian actors, and films all in Russia. And he makes it accurate to his book. He is happy with the finished movie, and believes it is an accurate rendering ot the book, and his satire.

It becomes a hit in America, and receives an Academy Award. Pelevin has not "sold out" to Hollywood, and the movie is true to the book.

This scenario is science fiction.

Originally Posted by Dobry

What are your thoughts now? The movie is definitely "Russian", from Pelevin's view and satire. Do not consider whether it "can happen"...ASSUME IT HAS HAPPENED...what do you think?

Would you be angry? Indifferent? Disgusted? Angry with Pelevin? Angry with Hollywood for giving him the money? Or, would you be happy? Proud?

Honestly, I'm not going to see any film based on "Omon Ra" -- don't care, is it made in Hollywood or anywhere else.
In 1990 it may be looking like a very innovative and daring novel. Now it's just a lampoon.

Originally Posted by Scorpio

Originally Posted by Dobry

Now for a real twist...for Russians...

Imagine the following...THIS IS PURELY A HYPOTHESIS!

What if Hollywood produces a movie of Omon Ra???
(None of this is meant to be disrespectful of Pelevin...it is only a hypothesis for discussion as a "what if?".

Seems absolutely unprobable.
Pelevin is way too much esoteric for Hollywood.

Improbability is not relevant to this hypothesis.

Originally Posted by Scorpio

Originally Posted by Dobry

Viktor Pelevin decides he wants to make a movie of Omon Ra (on my "best books" list...and I discovered Pelevin because of several Russian friends in Moscow...NOT from America). On a side-note, in America, Pelevin is a very respected writer.

Does anybody besides american "intellectuals" read his books?

I am not an "intellectual"...and neither are some others I know who like his writing. Again, not relevant. Must someone be an "intellectual" in Russia to like, say, Mark Twain, or Kurt Vonnegut? Stanislaw Lem?

I'm flattered that you group me with "intellectuals"
...but no, I simply like to read and think.

Originally Posted by Scorpio

Originally Posted by Dobry

He cannot find support in Russia, so he travels to America. Hollywood agrees to make the movie. But Pelevin agrees only if he has complete artistic control. He controls the making of the movie. He returns to Russia, uses only Russian actors, and films all in Russia. And he makes it accurate to his book. He is happy with the finished movie, and believes it is an accurate rendering ot the book, and his satire.

It becomes a hit in America, and receives an Academy Award. Pelevin has not "sold out" to Hollywood, and the movie is true to the book.

This scenario is science fiction.

Again, not relevant to the hypothesis. I'm not asking probability, but reaction. You're avoiding an answer.

Originally Posted by Scorpio

Originally Posted by Dobry

What are your thoughts now? The movie is definitely "Russian", from Pelevin's view and satire. Do not consider whether it "can happen"...ASSUME IT HAS HAPPENED...what do you think?

Would you be angry? Indifferent? Disgusted? Angry with Pelevin? Angry with Hollywood for giving him the money? Or, would you be happy? Proud?

Honestly, I'm not going to see any film based on "Omon Ra" -- don't care, is it made in Hollywood or anywhere else.
In 1990 it may be looking like a very innovative and daring novel. Now it's just a lampoon.

I'm sorry that you didn't get more out of the book. I got a lot more out of it, getting into life and the "human condition"...full of allegories and metaphors. It's not only a "lampoon". But, to each his opinion.

**shrugs** Not everyone likes the same books.

Originally Posted by Pioner

You still did not reply, what Russian movie where american army participate you can call where Americans showed as humans, with real life style etc.?

By the way: dear Pioner, I am so much glad to see you herel So far, I only read this forum (and I like it very much), but maybe now it is the time to begin writing... :P

I wonder that nobody mentioned the movie "Aftershock" (about the earthquake in New York) where very pleasant Russian taxi driver was portrayed...

Lion, I never heard about the movie, but anyhow, I am glad to see you here as well, how many forums do you visit?

Originally Posted by PrincetonLion

Originally Posted by Pioner

how many forums do you visit?

Any place where I can find pretty American girl(s)!

have you tried to go out? :P

Originally Posted by Pioner

Lion, I never heard about the movie

You can take it at Netflix...

Originally Posted by PrincetonLion

Originally Posted by Pioner

Lion, I never heard about the movie

You can take it at Netflix...

I just quit with it a few days ago, no time to watch.

Originally Posted by Pioner

have you tried to go out? :P

It's a good idea...