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    Is Russian an official language outside Russia?

    Hi I am new to Russian. Is Russian an offical language in another country besides Russia? Thanks for your help.

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    Transnistria, Abkhazia, Belarus, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan

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    More information on the topic.
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    Isn't is also official is the Crimea (Ukraine).
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    Quote Originally Posted by TATY
    Isn't is also official is the Crimea (Ukraine).
    на Украине нет

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    Please correct any Russian language mistakes I make.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TATY
    Isn't is also official is the Crimea (Ukraine).
    Yes TATY you were right - Crimea speaks Russian generally.
    Most of people there identity Crimea as part of Russia, not Ukraine - inspite of any borders.
    Я так думаю.

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    Man, I love the Ukrainian national motto .
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    I read recently that Yanukovych is proposing that Russian be made official alongside Ukrainian, ahead of the upcoming elections that's his party is projected to do well in. And it should be noted that Transdnistra (Moldova) and Abkhazia (Georgia) aren't sovereign countries but as, how shall I put it, "contested areas" -- perhaps that's why Dmitri listed them in italics.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Barmaley
    I read recently that Yanukovych is proposing that Russian be made official alongside Ukrainian, ahead of the upcoming elections that's his party is projected to do well in.
    I think I'd be right thing to do but I also think it's not realistic, it's not gonna happen.

    Quote Originally Posted by Barmaley
    And it should be noted that Transdnistra (Moldova) and Abkhazia (Georgia) aren't sovereign countries but as, how shall I put it, "contested areas" -- perhaps that's why Dmitri listed them in italics.
    De-jure no, de-facto they are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leof
    Quote Originally Posted by TATY
    Isn't is also official is the Crimea (Ukraine).
    Yes TATY you were right - Crimea speaks Russian generally.
    Most of people there identity Crimea as part of Russia, not Ukraine - inspite of any borders.
    Russian is an official language within Crimea Autonomy boundaries, but it's hard to emagine an official paper that one can be sure s/he never needs outside of Crimea. So almost all paper work is done in Ukrainean, quite ofter broken one.

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    Well, ukrainian and russian are both official languages in Kharkov (Ukraine) for now. But it's almost for sure that president will find a way to abolish that desision. He's not a fan of russian language.
    http://www.smi.ru/06/03/07/4292983.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by gRomoZeka
    Well, ukrainian and russian are both official languages in Kharkov (Ukraine) for now. But it's almost for sure that president will find a way to abolish that desision. He's not a fan of russian language.
    http://www.smi.ru/06/03/07/4292983.html
    But not if he gets thrashed in the election and Tymoshenko joins up with Yanukovich...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Barmaley
    I read recently that Yanukovych is proposing that Russian be made official alongside Ukrainian, ahead of the upcoming elections that's his party is projected to do well in. And it should be noted that Transdnistra (Moldova) and Abkhazia (Georgia) aren't sovereign countries but as, how shall I put it, "contested areas" -- perhaps that's why Dmitri listed them in italics.
    I believe Yanukovich proposed that in the last elections as well.

    Transdnistra may not be officially recognised by any countries, but it has its own government and money (Roubles). They want, or at least used to want, to be part of the Russian Federation. One of the biggest problems is there is this big thing called Ukraine separating it from the motherland.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Barmaley
    Quote Originally Posted by gRomoZeka
    Well, ukrainian and russian are both official languages in Kharkov (Ukraine) for now. But it's almost for sure that president will find a way to abolish that desision. He's not a fan of russian language.
    http://www.smi.ru/06/03/07/4292983.html
    But not if he gets thrashed in the election and Tymoshenko joins up with Yanukovich...
    The elections this year are not presidential. I don't really see the Tymoshenko and Yanukovich partnership working. A Ukrainian friend (who is pro-Ukrainian, pro-Orange revolution and such) told me the pro-Ukrainian press, and Western press really over-inflate public opinion on Tymoshenko. I mean Ukrayins'ka Prawda www.pravda.com.ua always is running stories about her. "Yulia Tymoshenko celebrates her birthday", "Yulia Tymoshenko launches election campgain", "Yulia Tymoshenko goes to the toilet". I once counted 7 pictures of her on the homepage alone. Anyway, my point is, they would have you believe she is really popular in Ukraine, but my friend claims she isn't and people don't trust her.

    Yanukovich, on the other hand has a good strong loyal following, that is on the rise. It is quite possible he could beat Yushchenko in the next presidential elections.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TATY
    Anyway, my point is, they would have you believe she is really popular in Ukraine, but my friend claims she isn't and people don't trust her.
    Yanukovich, on the other hand has a good strong loyal following, that is on the rise. It is quite possible he could beat Yushchenko in the next presidential elections.
    About the same quantity of pro-orange guys don't trust Yushchenko. Former revolution leaders and their followers are on bad terms now. Those who voted for Yanukovich don't trust neither of them.
    By the way, I think Timoshenko has very funny slogans. On one of her posters there is her picture and slogan "She is back!' Sounds like horror movie to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TATY
    The elections this year are not presidential. I don't really see the Tymoshenko and Yanukovich partnership working. A Ukrainian friend (who is pro-Ukrainian, pro-Orange revolution and such) told me the pro-Ukrainian press, and Western press really over-inflate public opinion on Tymoshenko. I mean Ukrayins'ka Prawda www.pravda.com.ua always is running stories about her. "Yulia Tymoshenko celebrates her birthday", "Yulia Tymoshenko launches election campgain", "Yulia Tymoshenko goes to the toilet". I once counted 7 pictures of her on the homepage alone. Anyway, my point is, they would have you believe she is really popular in Ukraine, but my friend claims she isn't and people don't trust her.

    Yanukovich, on the other hand has a good strong loyal following, that is on the rise. It is quite possible he could beat Yushchenko in the next presidential elections.
    Right; they are for parliment, but it's still a big deal. The last I heard it was roughly like 40% Yanukovich's party, and 30% each for the other two. I certainly don't claim to be an expert, but even if her party pulls only, say, 15% that's still a majority she can form with him -- and all indications are she's pissed with Yushchenko and is willing to go to someone who offers her the better deal. Of course, all of this assumes that they all have 100% party loyalty amongst the candidates, and I really have no idea how tight party cohesion is... And, not knowing your friend and not wishing to insult either of you, could it simply be that he/she (or her region/social group/whatever) doesn't like her? Look, again, I don't really know, but it seems to me that that is far from a definitive answer (although I certainly don't contest the possiblity that she does gain bumps and positive coverage through puff-pieces in the press; for Russian parallels, see "Yeltsin, Boris" or "Putin, Vladimir" for example).
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    Quote Originally Posted by gRomoZeka
    Well, ukrainian and russian are both official languages in Kharkov (Ukraine) for now.
    http://www.smi.ru/06/03/07/4292983.html
    cool

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barmaley
    I read recently that Yanukovych is proposing that Russian be made official alongside Ukrainian, ahead of the upcoming elections that's his party is projected to do well in. And it should be noted that Transdnistra (Moldova) and Abkhazia (Georgia) aren't sovereign countries but as, how shall I put it, "contested areas" -- perhaps that's why Dmitri listed them in italics.
    I recall Mr. Kuchma promising the same thing in 1994 elections

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    Quote Originally Posted by TATY
    Quote Originally Posted by Barmaley
    I read recently that Yanukovych is proposing that Russian be made official alongside Ukrainian, ahead of the upcoming elections that's his party is projected to do well in. And it should be noted that Transdnistra (Moldova) and Abkhazia (Georgia) aren't sovereign countries but as, how shall I put it, "contested areas" -- perhaps that's why Dmitri listed them in italics.
    I believe Yanukovich proposed that in the last elections as well.

    Transdnistra may not be officially recognised by any countries, but it has its own government and money (Roubles). They want, or at least used to want, to be part of the Russian Federation. One of the biggest problems is there is this big thing called Ukraine separating it from the motherland.
    "used to cautiously say to want" would be probably closer to the truth
    Lukashenka in Bielorussia used to say the same thing, but I somehow doubt that is what he wants )

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