Thread: the reality of Russia?

Originally Posted by sperk

Originally Posted by Alware

Originally Posted by sperk

How long did you actually dwell in Russia??

one week.

Oh boy. You had to endure the whole week in that awfull russian appartament!!

Now you must be happy to come back home to nice condos and trailers of hight US standards.

it seems you're trying to start some sort of argument with me...
my point is that for some people life in russian is not great.
Did you even understand what I wrote?

Well, I did get the idea. I just didn't understand the description.
The reason for relocation is different imho. Because I know people who moved there and left good appartament for ugly trailer.

I think people relocate to western world because there they feel safe and stable. And there they can get food and roof over their heads just doing nothing.

But good point is that you love your country like I do. We just only need to be objective imho

Originally Posted by Vincent Tailors

No, I'm just trying to figure out what you meant saying about "US standards".

my point is that for some people life in russian is not great.

For every American life in the USA is great, eh?

no, not at all. It was just an example. Most americans are in debt, it's not a paradise.

Originally Posted by Alware

We just only need to be objective imho

good idea! The US has many problems, I could spend all night typing them but I'm too tired. If the US was perfect I wouldn't be interested in Russia!

Originally Posted by Vincent Tailors

No, I'm just trying to figure out what you meant saying about "US standards".

my point is that for some people life in russian is not great.

For every American life in the USA is great, eh?

Not even close. America has a very very very large poverty problem~ the situation I grew up in and am debting my way through uni trying to escape from. Living far under the "poverty line" of any country you live in can be very terrible... but I personally think it is worse when you live in a rich country like the US with no socialized medicine(among other things). You see how great life in this country can be everyday~then you go home to a run down place, barely holding it together with stop-gaps like tape and eating bread that was given to your family by your church because they know youre poor(bread with mold on it at that).

America is a horrid place to live if you are stuck on the bottom. Especially when you use credit to cover the bills~~and then the bill collectors wont leave you alone calling 24/7 and mailing you and even sueing you eventually... We would all be a lot better off without Credit.

Originally Posted by sperk

Originally Posted by Alware

We just only need to be objective imho

good idea! The US has many problems, I could spend all night typing them but I'm too tired. If the US was perfect I wouldn't be interested in Russia!

I don't mean all the problems.
I just used to live in those ugly condos in connecticut (with crazy land lord's restrictions and rules) and I know people who live in those "mobile homes" when they don't turn air condition on to save money for electricity.
So I'm now happy to live in an appartament in russia with central heating and central water (hot and cold) supply.

Originally Posted by Plastic-Saint

We would all be a lot better off without Credit.

Yeah. It starts the same way here. Banks in their adds say that you'll be a happiest person in the world if you make a loan. But then it turns into a pain.

[quote="Alware"
I don't mean all the problems.
I just used to live in those ugly condos in connecticut (with crazy land lord's restrictions and rules) and I know people who live in those "mobile homes" when they don't turn air condition on to save money for electricity.
So I'm now happy to live in an appartament in russia with central heating and central water (hot and cold) supply.[/quote]

yes, life can suck for some, especially if you don't have money. I'm glad you have a nice place now. I never thought of Siberia as having those kinds of apts, now I'm less ignorant! I only thought of tundra, COLD , snow...

Originally Posted by sperk

Originally Posted by Alware

I don't mean all the problems.
I just used to live in those ugly condos in connecticut (with crazy land lord's restrictions and rules) and I know people who live in those "mobile homes" when they don't turn air condition on to save money for electricity.
So I'm now happy to live in an appartament in russia with central heating and central water (hot and cold) supply.

yes, life can suck for some, especially if you don't have money. I'm glad you have a nice place now. I never thought of Siberia as having those kinds of apts, now I'm less ignorant! I only thought of tundra, COLD , snow...

http://masterrussian.net/mforum/viewtopic.php?t=8374

Originally Posted by sperk

Originally Posted by Stars

it's hard to appreciate great literature, beautiful language and music when you have to commute through a dirty city on public transportation

Apparently, it's not. The public transportation is a much better place for appreciating any literature than a personal car, which you have to drive Russian subway used to look like a library branch in 70s... Nowadays people read less, but it's for a different reason...

Originally Posted by Alware

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http://masterrussian.net/mforum/viewtopic.php?t=8374

очень интересно

The only way to see if you really like Russia is to live there for a year (or untill you can't take it anymore ). i've been here for 3 years and there are days when I refuse to speak Russian, get out my stash of Skippy pnutbutter and swear I'm getting on the next plane out of here. But most of the time I can't imagine living anywhere else.

I think that people who immigrate from russia and sayint that it complete hole and nightmare are just sick and very special-type. I live here all my life and very fond of staying here. I'v been in several western european and asian countries and the life style in my oun country, at least for me, seems me the best.

Originally Posted by Dogboy182

He opened his own American style pizza restaruant in some siberian city, and hes now a millionaire.

My hunch is that he's not just selling "pizza" or that "pizza" is a code-word for something else...

all the russians in south africa make regular trips back and miss it lol but then again the crime in russian is nothing compared to South Africa but seriously i thought russia was at an alltime economic boom.

Originally Posted by mooman

all the russians in south africa make regular trips back and miss it lol but then again the crime in russian is nothing compared to South Africa but seriously i thought russia was at an alltime economic boom.

What on earth are they doing in South Africa ? Are there actually people who want to move there ?

Я думал, что все жители Южно-Африканской Республики хотели покидать свою страну и переехать в Новую Зеландию. Здесь так и кажется...

Originally Posted by basurero

Я думал, что все жители Южно-Африканской Республики хотели покидать свою страну и переехать в Новую Зеландию. Здесь так и кажется...

Южноафриканец в Новой зеландии должен очень хорошо себя чувтсвовать. ИМХО

Are they actually people who want to move there ?

Russians are everywhere, even in Lebanon and maybe even in Chad.

хотели покинуть свою страну