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    Russian handwriting - feedback and examples wanted!

    Здравствуйте!

    I'd appreciate it if you could check out my russian handwriting and offer feedback. Are there any bad habits that I need to break asap? Does it look strange or normal? You can also see a little bit of my latin script in the title, if you want to compare.

    Also, I'd be very interested to see other examples of handwritten Russian, particuarly if you are a native (although I'd love to see other non-native's writing too). I've never shown anyone my Russian cursive before, and I've never seen anyone else's so it'd be great to share!
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    Re: Russian handwriting - feedback and examples wanted!

    Good work. I am not a native speaker but I think you did the right thing taking the time to learn it (LOTS of people seem to have some kind of phobia for Russian handwriting..) Looks fine to me.

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    Re: Russian handwriting - feedback and examples wanted!

    Looks fairly close to the textbook examples I have seen. Actually it looks extremely close.

    Other less formal script is sometimes easier to read. Л и М with deeper initial stoke makes for easier reading, more like Greek mu and lambda. I make my и more sharp in the dip, to accentuate the difference from script u.

    (I make my б more like old fashioned caps print, and I don't confuse it with Greek lower case delta, which is sometimes used in Cyrillic instead of the script you show. This type of curly delta you will sometimes see in википедия. One is almost the mirror image of the other.)

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    Re: Russian handwriting - feedback and examples wanted!

    Wow! It's great, wish mine were as good. One thing I missed was the horizontal lines above and below on the т and ш. Ссылка к одному из моих любимых каллиграфов, Виллу Тоотс -- http://www.callig.ru/node/27/

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    Re: Russian handwriting - feedback and examples wanted!

    Pretty Butterfly
    Yikes!
    My nine-year-old son's handwriting is just the same!
    If my post contains errors of any kind, I'd appreciate anyone setting me straight.

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    Re: Russian handwriting - feedback and examples wanted!

    As a native I can write, say, the same text and post here if you are interested, but I'll give you a warning! My handwriting is incredibly bad, in Russia we say: "как курица лапой" (like it's written by chicken's paw).
    Please, correct my mistakes, except for the cases I misspell something on purpose!

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    Re: Russian handwriting - feedback and examples wanted!

    Quote Originally Posted by Pretty Butterfly
    Are there any bad habits that I need to break asap?
    I like your writing, it's much better than mine anyways. I noticed you forget to put the dots over Ё, but otherwise it looks not bad.

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    Re: Russian handwriting - feedback and examples wanted!

    Thanks for the feedback everyone!

    Quote Originally Posted by Seraph
    (I make my б more like old fashioned caps print, and I don't confuse it with Greek lower case delta, which is sometimes used in Cyrillic instead of the script you show. This type of curly delta you will sometimes see in википедия. One is almost the mirror image of the other.)
    Not sure exactly what you mean here - can you link to any examples?

    Quote Originally Posted by chaika
    Wow! It's great, wish mine were as good. One thing I missed was the horizontal lines above and below on the т and ш.
    Thanks! I don't use the horizontal lines personally because I don't have any difficulty differentiating between ш and т. I understand that most Russians are lazy like me and don't include them either. I do however tend to get mixed up with л, м, и, ц, ш and щ when a lot of these letters are all grouped together (for example лш and ми look pretty much the same as each other in my writing).

    Quote Originally Posted by Selexin
    Yikes!
    My nine-year-old son's handwriting is just the same!
    Is that a good thing or a bad thing? It kind of makes sense as I did learn using resources designed for children. That is my "neat" writing - when I'm writing out my exercises I tend to get lazy and not always join everything properly.

    Quote Originally Posted by Basil77
    As a native I can write, say, the same text and post here if you are interested, but I'll give you a warning! My handwriting is incredibly bad, in Russia we say: "как курица лапой" (like it's written by chicken's paw).
    I'd love to see it. I could set myself a challenge and see if I can make out what it says...

    I'd love it if someone else would share their writing!
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    Re: Russian handwriting - feedback and examples wanted!

    Quote Originally Posted by Pretty Butterfly
    Quote Originally Posted by Basil77
    As a native I can write, say, the same text and post here if you are interested, but I'll give you a warning! My handwriting is incredibly bad, in Russia we say: "как курица лапой" (like it's written by chicken's paw).
    I'd love to see it. I could set myself a challenge and see if I can make out what it says...
    I'd love it if someone else would share their writing!
    Well, I'v even asked my family to help a little. So, there are fragments of the same poem, written by..

    My wife:



    My seven-year-old son:



    And finally me:

    Please, correct my mistakes, except for the cases I misspell something on purpose!

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    Re: Russian handwriting - feedback and examples wanted!

    Basil, yours is the most difficult to read, yet the most interesting to look at, for some reason, looks a bit artsy!

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    Re: Russian handwriting - feedback and examples wanted!

    Quote Originally Posted by Basil77
    And finally me:

    You’re not a doctor, are you?

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    Re: Russian handwriting - feedback and examples wanted!

    Hey, Basil's handwriting is very clear in comparison to mine. Unluckily my scanner is too old to provide a proof.
    "Россия для русских" - это неправильно. Остальные-то чем лучше?

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    Re: Russian handwriting - feedback and examples wanted!

    [quote:2lb7n13c]Selexin писал(а):
    Yikes!
    My nine-year-old son's handwriting is just the same!
    Is that a good thing or a bad thing?[/quote:2lb7n13c]

    Pretty Butterfly, of course it's good. Your handwriting is very legible and easy to read unlike mine.
    If my post contains errors of any kind, I'd appreciate anyone setting me straight.

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    Re: Russian handwriting - feedback and examples wanted!

    Мои каракули

    P.S. Took the picture by the cell phone, so quality is far from perfect, but I hope it's still acceptable.

    P.S2. Native lame handwriting

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    Re: Russian handwriting - feedback and examples wanted!

    I see that I made something a little confusing. I did not say it properly.

    Can see italicized forms sometimes in Russian wikipedia. In math we call the ital. little d, curly d.

    http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...nonitalics.png

    The Greek little delta is sometimes used, but is a headache, because of similarities shown below.

    http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi..._Cyrillics.png

    Delta here:

    http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi..._uc_lc.svg.png

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    Re: Russian handwriting - feedback and examples wanted!

    I think you might be a worthy opponent of Basil in terms of illegibility, Scrubus
    btw, I absolutely adore how all of the natives write letter "б", somehow I just can't pull this off.

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    Re: Russian handwriting - feedback and examples wanted!

    Basil77, я где-то слышал, что если человек делает верхние части букв большими (как у твоих «д», «в», «б»), то он мечтатель. А если нижние части большие — то приземлённый прагматик.

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    Re: Russian handwriting - feedback and examples wanted!

    Ну, это только теория. На мой взгляд, необоснованная. Какие-нибудь исследования проводились? Статистика есть? Скажем, если бы 1000 человек заполнили анкеты, с помощью которых можно было бы выявить степень их склонности к прагматизму, а затем сравнить полученную иформацию с образцами почерка, тогда можно было бы говорить о какой-то взаимосвязи (в случае, если бы таковая чётко прослеживалась).
    Please, correct my mistakes, except for the cases I misspell something on purpose!

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    Re: Russian handwriting - feedback and examples wanted!

    Thanks to Basil & family, and to Scrabus, for sharing their handwriting. Since I already know what they say I can read them all although I think I would be able to struggle through most of it even if it was something unfamiliar. I work in a hospital so have plenty of practice reading doctor's handwriting!
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    Re: Russian handwriting - feedback and examples wanted!

    I like how you have letter alternatives that are significantly different. I am thinking of т and з. I personally always used the т that looks like a т and not an m. Being a lefty, I am challenged by any normal script that was designed for righties.

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