Hundreds of innocent people die in both countries but it seems that world leaders are not going to stop their geopolitical games and will continue that cruel bloodshed.
With whom are you? Whould be interesting to know all kinds of opinion.
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Hundreds of innocent people die in both countries but it seems that world leaders are not going to stop their geopolitical games and will continue that cruel bloodshed.
With whom are you? Whould be interesting to know all kinds of opinion.
I'm on the side of civilians who suffer both in Israel and Lebanon.
I am jewish so.....Quote:
Originally Posted by SummerKiss
but what's happening is terrible on both sides
all those conflicts will continue until the earth exploses
What' s about America and Russia?With whom are they?
In France most of the people and our government is with the Liban
I'm on Israel's side. They've been bending over backwards to try to keep peace there, but it's about time they stood up for themselves again. I'm just waiting for their victory and hoping there aren't too many losses on their side (I have an Israeli friend who helps keep me up to date).
Thank you man.Quote:
Originally Posted by DDL
Isreal is just as much of a terrorist group as Al-Qaida. Check this out:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... mised+Land
And no, i'm not anti-semetic. I'm just not somebody who agrees with a nation that commits war crimes in the name of self-defense.
tdk
Ааа, глянь, а я думала, что Израиль - страна, союзник США.Quote:
Originally Posted by tdk2fe
It is. But there are a lot of people in the USA that don't agree with the current policy of unconditional support for Isreal.
tdk
Зато они, наверное, были согласны с ответом своего правительства на убийство в Бейруте двухсот сорока одного солдата в 1983 году.Quote:
Originally Posted by tdk2fe
It is pretty plain to see that Israel wears a White hat.
What is hard to see is why there is so much negative said about Israel. That is what should really be the topic of discussion.
Наверное, лучше вернуться к русскому языку.Quote:
Originally Posted by DDT
@DDT:
It's the same thing as why there is so much bad stuff said about America. The two countrie's situations are pretty much identical - a few crazy people kidnap soldiers / kill thousands of innocent people. The response? Invasion of a foreign country.
tdk
Yes, but they are defective people, like many of the interviewees in your film. I mean what would you expect a reporter from "The Village Voice" to say? :DQuote:
Originally Posted by tdk2fe
I'm not just talking about people in the film. I agree, it obviously has a bias, but the facts remain.
tdk
Oh come now! There were no real facts presented in the film. It was simply a sham to beguile the gullible and people who know nothing of Israel and history.
You want to know why Israel gets a proportionally harder time for acting just as badly as the terrorists they are fighting?
Да? Точно также? Что то я не слышала о том, что Насбулла разбрасывает листовки, предупреждающие о предстоящей бомбёжке?Quote:
Originally Posted by scotcher
http://www.spiegel.de/img/0,1020,672102,00.jpg
Isreali warplanes drop leaflets over Lebanon warning local residents to flee.
Well, maybe they drop leaflets with something like "surrender, don't panic, stay home", ah?
I'm with Lebanon. Israel needs to chill a little.
I'm on the fence like usual. Both sides are in the wrong. The total destruction of Lebonon is uncalled for, but so is Hizbollah's terrorism.
No one side can claim to be in the right. Give me one argument and I can counter it with with ten.
Where is that chick who started this whole argument?
I personally think its funny... Hezbollah wasn't expecting the jews to pull an America ;) But joking aside, I'm with Israel and anyone who crushes millitant muslims and the countries that harbor them knowingly.
I know! What did Hezollah think? That Israel would not clobber them?
I wouldn't be surprised to discover that there are some CIA agents stirring Hezbollah to do some mischief to keep the Middle East boiling hot. That would be to noone's interest in bigger politics to have calm and peaceful Middle East. While there is oil in there, there would never be any peace.
Israel is just a "hostage" of the situation. It must respond to such attacks for it is strongly dependant on the USA financially and politically.
And I have some suspects also on whose money exactly Hezbollah performs its activity
Fixed that for you, Sprinkles.Quote:
Originally Posted by DDT
Эта тема должна быть разрушена.
Ты имеешь ввиду закрыта (closed) или разрушена (destroyed) ? :)Quote:
Originally Posted by basurero
И то, и другое. Должна быть закрыта ядерной бомбой.
Now THAT is what I call the ultimate solution to the Middle East Problems. Sink it below the sea surface. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by basurero
недавно смотрел ОРТ, сказали что Израли(е)тяне называют реактивные снаряды хамаза "катюшами" :?
Quote:
Originally Posted by ST
I'm on the side of Lebanon.Israel had betta stop it
I'm on the side of Lebanon and I pray for piece. However it looks like there are too many sides who are interested in continuation of the conflict and destruction of infrastructure and economy of Lebanon, which has grown stronger and started to develop recently.
I'm on no side, i just wish them to stop bombing my city, so i could start going to work.
Which city are you from?Quote:
Originally Posted by Remyisme
Haifa
I hope piece will come soon.Quote:
Originally Posted by Remyisme
Thats why I'm so shocked! While big bosses in ties and suites cant divide money, land and authority and play that bloody game simple citizens are locked in the shelters, they cant work they cant have fun they cant live their normal life! And the world is staying silent.......
Plain to see if you're totally biased or deluded I guess.Quote:
Originally Posted by DDT
The Israelis are busy destroying a people's right to self-determination while nobody in the West notices or cares. They don't want the Palestianians to have their own state and have been tightening their grip on the land for years. Settlement continues all the time in a desire to create a "greater Israel". The Palestianians will be forced to live in apartheid like Bantustans. That's the Israeli "plan for peace".
http://news.bbc.co.uk/nol/shared/spl...0021/img/1.jpg
So, in 50 years people who have yet to be born and have nothing to do with past conflicts will be forced to live like animals, penned in to fragmented scraps of land that are totally dependent on Israel. Most will probably have to work inside Israel as second class citzens with no say in the state that effectively rules them. Israeli "democracy" won't extend to them.
Israel's policies are ensuring discontent and conflict will persist for generations in the Middle East.
How can you say isreal is a terrorist state?
Theres a diffrence between Hezbollah Bombing innocent civilians at bus stops with suicide bombers and isreal accidently killing civilains by collateral damage with bombs. Sure accidents happen, soldiers get nervous and sometimes civialians die. Even sometimes there are murders... But 98% of the time, isreal is acting in self defense. Im pretty sure Isreal never send any suicide bombers to perpously target civilians.
Why not bash Russia while you're at it? You going to call Russians terrorists for trying to contain the situation in Chechnya?
So, some civilains in Chechnya die. Zachistki kill a lot of uneeded people. But they kill even more people who deserve it. Russian goverment claims there are never more than 2000 active terrorists in checnya at one time. Most of them right, and then rotate back into the civilian world.
What im saying is, its sad that Chechen, Palistinian, Lebanese civilians have to die. But lets be real. They are the agressors. In 1991 Russia didnt say "Hey chechnya, go ahead, try to break off and be independant... OH JUST KIDDING" and start bombing a bunch of civilians.
As soon as the people of chechnya get rid of this dilousion of some great islamic nation, completely free from Russian control... the sooner there will be peace.
Same goes with Lebenon and Palestine. The sooner they get over the fact that, THERE IS more than just 1 god "allah" and that isreal isnt going anywhere anytime soon, the sooner they can get off their insane radical islamic horse and there will be peace.
And im sure someone is going to post story about how a group of russian soldiers beheaded a suspected sniper in chechnya and sent his disfigured body back to his family. But before you go all hippy on us, please spare the sob story and know that I, or 99% of anyone else who is forced to serve in defense of their country would do the same thing to anyone suspected of killing their brothers.
*Note. Im not a supporter of either Isreal of Lebenon. Isreal wasn't even there 100 years ago, and I can understand how the muslims are mad of the jews presence in the region. But lets be real. The muslims here in both cases are the agressors. How many airplanes has Isreal hijacked? schools have they bombed? suicide bombers have they funded? Thats right hippies. Get over it. Dont start a fight if you can't finish it*
In case somebody here doesn't know how to spell the name of the state in question, it's "Israel"