Quote Originally Posted by Оля
Quote Originally Posted by Danka
The current expansionism of their borders is proof enough.
You're a product of CNN and White House propaganda.

There'is no expansionism either of the border, nor of the borders.

You don't know even approximately what happened there. At least because you are not able to read in Russian what eye-witnesses say about it. And I doubt that American channels will be in hurry to tell Americans the truth. Do you know that they showed ruins in Tskhinval, but said it was the georgian town Gori?
How do you know they said it was Gori but really showed pictures of Tskhinvali? Because you're press said so? So it's you press's word again our press's word, so

By the way, while American media is much more biases, European media while generally being on the Georgian side, did regularly portrayed the Russian / Ossetian point of view, for example the British newspaper the Guardian practicically from the start was saying it was all Georgia's fault for launching an attack on South Ossetia. Russian media only shows the extreme anti-western POV (i.e. CNN which you love quoting) in order to portray

Everything I've read / watched / listen in the Russian media is the same. Not only does it say the same thing.

Also regarding expansionism of the borders. The official Russian border hasn't changed, but Russian recognises Abkhazia and South Ossetia, the majority of both these republics have Russian passports, can freely travel in and out of Russia, and Russians can travel in and out of the regions, these two republics will have Russian military bases and Russian peacekeepers there, the Russian goverment is going to help them set up an infrastructure, civic institutions and naturally they will be similar to the Russian set up.... so yeh, the official border hasn't expanded, but the de facto border has / will. (I'm not saying this is wrong, if the majority of these regions want to be part of Russia / closely associated with Russian, then why not? They'll never integrate into Georgia, I'm just saying Russians should just admit what's going on).