Thread: Films & TV: Russian & Non - Q&As/Reviews/Links all in here!

"Leave the gun, take the canolli"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T1-y9-m-CU0&NR=1
WOW!!! Godfather 1 & 2 are quotable

Originally Posted by Оля

Originally Posted by rockzmom

And in Russian movies, how are Americans portrayed?

Mostly, as big children, I think. Who speak very loudly and always smile. Never as "bad guys". But actually, you wouldn't find many Americans in Russian movies.

I have found one
[video:vryw1klg]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YkX6v-vF0II[/video:vryw1klg]

Originally Posted by studyr

I have found one
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YkX6v-vF0II

studyr - - I am lost the video you posted Is there anyway you or someone else can just give me the "Reader's Digest Condensed Version" of it? Remember... I am the one who knows NO Russian on this forum so I am at the mercy of the smarter ones to help me out.

Okay, so I found the film trailer for this movie, yet it does not help out too much but it looks funny!!!
[video:32j6llkb]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J6Xd23I2Dv4[/video:32j6llkb]

Thanks!

I think this movies good to watch to answer how Americans portrayed in our movies, I think its a good examples "Russian man among American people, among American culture"
Американская дочь American Daughter http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0112348/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJ0eORkXdeA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uqiAHmSXcF8
Брат 2 The Brother 2 http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0238883/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RyY1HbnacPo

I think we love to see themselves as a "simple hero" into the "cruel world of money", and this world in some movies associate with USA. But as you'll can see in this movies, many of Americans portrayed not at all сruel, many of them very kind.

Originally Posted by rockzmom

Originally Posted by studyr

I have found one

studyr - - I am lost the video you posted Is there anyway you or someone else can just give me the "Reader's Digest Condensed Version" of it? Remember... I am the one who knows NO Russian on this forum so I am at the mercy of the smarter ones to help me out.

Thanks!

Deja Vu (1988 film)

They say "comedy thriller" but actually it's a grotesque. Russian and American characters are stereotypes in the purest form.

In the fragment presented by studyr a Soviet professor asks the guide to introduce him to the American professor (who is actually a killer). Then a women on a bicycle reminds to the professor that he has to pass GTO tests. The instructor is unaware that the another guy is an American. He demands from him to shoot. When he realizes who is it he become highly displeased by the fact that American professors are ready for labour and defense but Russian professors are not.

Originally Posted by Полуношник

Then a women on a bicycle reminds to the professor that he has to pass GTO tests

...or else he will not be allowed to take part in subbotnik.
That was funny.

[quote=E-learner]

Originally Posted by "Полуношник":2rrjsm86

Then a women on a bicycle reminds to the professor that he has to pass GTO tests

...or else he will not be allowed to take part in subbotnik.
That was funny.[/quote:2rrjsm86]
Not only he but whole his department. Awful punishment

Okay all you movie fans!!!

Two history (one on "Cleopatra: A Prototype for Today’s Ideal Modern Woman Leader and the other on Zheng He's Legacy), one science (on Myotonic Dystrophy including gene, hereditary and DNA analysis), and one theater (Mid Summers Night Dream) reports have all been completed!

So, I have loaded up my Archos with two movies: Gentlemen of Fortune and White Sun of the Dessert Rose and hopefully I will be able to sit back, relax and watch one if not both of these movies and then be able to write at least one long overdue review!

Rockzmom.

Originally Posted by rockzmom

As she pointed out that it is probably too soon for any of the non-native English speakers to have seen the movie "The Reader" ...

I am wondering if any of you have read "The Reader" as it was first published in German in 1995 and then translated into English in 1997???

According to Wikipedia, it has been translated into 37 languages, so I am guessing that it was translated into Russian at some point.

I know I have posted this question before and with Kate Winslet winning the Oscar for best actress for "The Reader" last night.

I have read the book and seen the movie and IMHO, these are both wonderful pieces of art. This movie is one of a very few that I have seen where it is actually fairly true to the book. There were a few changes of course, but all in all it was very faithful and I was not disappointed.

In addition, it was fascinating for me to know that the young man who played the teenage Michael, David Kross, only had a “school” knowledge of English and was spending as much as seven hours a day with a dialect coach to help him learn English for his role.

Finally, it was interesting for me to see this perspective of how this time in our history affected the people of Germany (the ones who lived through it and the future generations). The characters and relationship development didn't hurt either.

I know that this may be a difficult movie for nonnative English speakers to watch; however, I encourage you to give it a try or at least watch it once it has subtitles in your native language. Better yet, read the book first (it’s a quick read) and then try watching it in English with English subtitles!

Originally Posted by capecoddah

"Leave the gun, take the canolli"
WOW!!! Godfather 1 & 2 are quotable

Do Americans are really citing the "Godfather" as shown in the "You've Got Mail" movie with Tom Hanks and Meg Ryan?!
More over, whether the "Godfather" is the most cited American movie?
The quote "It's not personal. It's strictly business." was deeply engraved in Russia.

Hi CoffeeCup!

Let me try to answers your questions one by one.

Originally Posted by CoffeeCup

Do Americans [s:2yg3taxe]are[/s:2yg3taxe] really go around citing the "Godfather" as shown in the movie, "You've Got Mail" [s:2yg3taxe]movie[/s:2yg3taxe] with Tom Hanks and Meg Ryan?!

The answer is yes and no. It depends upon the age of the person and sometimes the gender. Now me, even a hard core film person has only seen PART of Godfather 1, yet I know a number of the famous lines from the movie; however, I rarely if ever cite them. I did upon occasion work with some males who were Godfather fans and they would find a way to work in a line from not only the Godfather but the HBO television series "The Sopranos" or the movie "Goodfellas" as well. So that might give you an idea of the types of films they like.

So, I guess it just depends upon how much you like the film and if you can find a way to work it into the conversation.

Originally Posted by CoffeeCup

More over (I would use the word "Additionally" instead of more over), whether the "Godfather" is the most cited American movie??!

According to the 2005, The American Film Institute (AFI), "100 Years of Movie Quotes" the top quote is:

"Frankly, my dear, I don’t give a damn." from GONE WITH THE WIND 1939.

The second is, "I'm going to make him an offer he can't refuse." from GODFATHER, THE 1972

Now, on the first entry of this thread there is a video clip from AFI that has a number of these quotes with the actual scenes from the movies.

Also I have posted the PDF version of AFI's list, if you would like to see the entire 100 quotes.
http://www.mediafire.com/?sharekey=b...fd8d2383f83d03

Finally, when reviewing this list from AFI, I noticed that a number of these quotes are from VERY old films. Most 20 or 30 year olds and under may not even know the reference being made.

Example:
I remember in the movie "Over the Hedge" there was the scene where Ozzie the Possum was playing dead after being struck by a car said…

Ozzie: [whispered] Rosebud.
[while playing Possum]
Ozzie: Rosebud!

I busted out laughing and then realized very quickly, I was the ONLY one laughing. None of the other adults understood the reference or joke (yes, I felt VERY old), yet, "Rosebud" is #17 on the AFI list.

Also from Over the Hedge:
Tiger: [calling after Stella sadly] STELLA!
Tiger: Stella? Stella? Where are you going? Stella? STEEEELLLLLLAAAAAAA!

Now this one had a few people laughing, but also, not that many and it is #45 on the AFI list.

So, CoffeeCup... quotes really are age, gender and the right setting!

Please let me know if you have any further questions.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AFI%27s_10 ... vie_Quotes

Originally Posted by Lampada

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AFI%27s...0_Movie_Quotes

Oh, thank you Lampada! I did not recall that the "100 Years of Movie Quotes" was posted on Wiki and with hotlinks to information about the movies too!

That could be much more useful than the PDF I uploaded!!!

Gold Stars for you today!!!

Hi Rockzmom!

Thanks for corrections.
I've never seen the "Godfather", while also know some lines. But this movie assures me to be the majestic milestone in the history.

The second is, "I'm going to make him an offer he can't refuse." from GODFATHER, THE 1972

This quote is also very citied in Russia. As you noted people use the quote without knowledge of the reference.
"100 Years of Movie Quotes" list contains the only two quotes that Russians go around in ENGLISH (All movies in Russia are displayed in Russian). These are

#37 I'll be Back
#76 Hasta la vista, baby.
both performed by The Terminator

As for Russia the most cited movies are also from 60's - 70's. Probably that time was the time of cinema raising. The total number of movies was not too high while the passion of audience was overfilled. Each movie was seen many times saturating people with quotes. The quotes started to live among people by their own life and come to our days sometimes lost their references.

I'm disappointed that I didn't find there "The first rule of Fight Club is, you do not talk about Fight Club..."
Don't you cite this?

Originally Posted by gRomoZeka

I'm disappointed that I didn't find there "The first rule of Fight Club is, you do not talk about Fight Club..."
Don't you cite this?

No, I don't nor have I heard anyone...but I do love this

The 8 rules of Fight Club - Kinetic Typography
[video:1ntzg50h]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fbMa4MGFCOg[/video:1ntzg50h]

Originally Posted by CoffeeCup

Hi Rockzmom!

I've never seen the "Godfather", while also know some lines. But this movie assures me to be the majestic milestone in the history.

Coffecup.. just so you know, we are not alone in not seeing the Godfather!

[video:1a8idp3c]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=avddxEad7u8[/video:1a8idp3c]

Originally Posted by rockzmom

Example:
I remember in the movie "Over the Hedge" there was the scene where Ozzie the Possum was playing dead after being struck by a car said…

Ozzie: [whispered] Rosebud.
[while playing Possum]
Ozzie: Rosebud!

I busted out laughing and then realized very quickly, I was the ONLY one laughing. None of the other adults understood the reference or joke (yes, I felt VERY old), yet, "Rosebud" is #17 on the AFI list.

Also from Over the Hedge:
Tiger: [calling after Stella sadly] STELLA!
Tiger: Stella? Stella? Where are you going? Stella? STEEEELLLLLLAAAAAAA!

Now this one had a few people laughing, but also, not that many and it is #45 on the AFI list.

Having read the Wikipedia’s article on Citizen Kane I got the joke, really funny.
I missed the second one though
There is The Simpsons episode called Rosebud, have we got Citizen Kane’s allusion there? Or you don’t like The Simpsons as I came to understand most of the Americans do lately.

Originally Posted by alexB

Having read the Wikipedia’s article on Citizen Kane I got the joke, really funny.
I missed the second one though
There is The Simpsons episode called Rosebud, have we got Citizen Kane’s allusion there? Or you don’t like The Simpsons as I came to understand most of the Americans do lately.

Hi Alex!

Me, I like the Simpsons it is just on too early for me here, so I usually don't have a chance to watch it. Anything on before 8pm, is hard for me because it is still, primetime for homework or basketball practice or other things like that.

Yes, the episode was based upon Citizen Kane here is the wiki link http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosebud_(The_Simpsons)
however, I am not certain that most viewers actually know the title of the episodes that they watch! So, I am guessing that most "kids" or young adults would NOT have seen the connection betweeen the show and the movie.
So... 10 points for you Alex!

Now, about STEEEELLLLLLAAAAAAA! This comes from the play and the movie "A Streetcar Named Desire"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Stree...re_(1951_film)

Here is the scene from the movie with Marlon Brandon
[video:bn2y0f9j]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S1A0p0F_iH8[/video:bn2y0f9j]

And here is the scene from Over the Hedge:
[video:bn2y0f9j]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KVAWLO0mPOY[/video:bn2y0f9j]

Hey Alex (and/or others) .... did the episode of The Simpsons called "Treehouse of Horror" air in Russia? If so, was it well received? Was the connection made and understood about the poem "The Raven?"

I know that my daughters had not heard of Edgar Allan Poe's The Raven (not even Poe and he spent a good amount of time in this area and is burried here!) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edgar_Allan_Poe

Not certain if you will be able to open the below URL; however, it has part of the episode.

http://www.facebook.com/video/video....&v=40294228539