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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric C. View Post
    "The reason for your happiness is that you don't have a clue of how unhappy you are" ("Ваше счастье в том что вы не знаете как плохо вы живете")
    The same could be said for people in the US right now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deborski View Post
    The same could be said for people in the US right now.
    And for any nation and era

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    Quote Originally Posted by dtrq View Post
    And for any nation and era
    I completely agree!

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    Troll (Internet) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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    Quote Originally Posted by dtrq View Post
    And for any nation and era
    Maybe a little bit offtop, but still: if you could choose when you live, now or 40 years ago, provided you would be in the same exact area you're now in, what would you choose?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric C. View Post
    Maybe a little bit offtop, but still: if you could choose when you live, now or 40 years ago, provided you would be in the same exact area you're now in, what would you choose?
    It would depend on which of my friends were there

    Because more than my country, or any specific time, I love my friends.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric C. View Post
    Let's assume all of your friends would go back in time with you =)
    But we would all have to live here in Spokanistan? There would not be any real difference between now and 40 years ago! LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deborski View Post
    But we would all have to live here in Spokanistan? There would not be any real difference between now and 40 years ago! LOL
    That's the thing! (if you take out of consideration the progress humanity has made over these years, though )

    While in Russia, there would be a fantastically huge difference.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric C. View Post
    That's the thing! (if you take out of consideration the progress humanity has made over these years, though )

    While in Russia, there would be a fantastically huge difference.
    It depends on the area you are talking about in any country, I suppose. I've visited some of the places where I grew up and the biggest changes I noticed were 1) the population increase/number of houses 2) more shopping malls, more franchise restaurants and fewer locally-owned businesses 3) less wild places, more encroachment on formerly wild lands.

    In Russia, changes have been sweeping in the major cities, especially in Moscow and St. Petersburg as well as others - but life in rural villages has barely changed at all. There are still many villages where people draw water from communal wells, have no internet access, and sometimes no roads or the area is accessible only by horse or by boat, if it is by a river for example.

    I am not opposed to all of the changes which have happened. Some changes are great. But not all change is for the best.

    If I could live in Spokane 40 years ago, as opposed to today, I might pick then because even though these days there are gains in human rights (civil rights, women's rights, gay rights, etc), the income disparity is greater than it has been before and the cost of land has greatly increased. Forty years ago, a common person could still hope to make something of himself, have a good career and a paid retirement if he was loyal to his company. He could buy a home, provide for his family and although we didn't have as many shopping malls or McDonalds or Walmarts back then, there were still many locally owned businesses where people did their shopping. And the wilderness was still almost pristine in many places.

    Now, America is beginning to resemble one big sprawling strip mall from coast to coast. I guess it is inevitable. But not all of that progress is good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric C. View Post
    Maybe a little bit offtop, but still: if you could choose when you live, now or 40 years ago, provided you would be in the same exact area you're now in, what would you choose?
    40 years ago there was nothing in the area where I'm now, lol. Anyway, of course I'll choose present days, because this is what I used to live in. But a lot of older generation people would choose 'Back in the USSR'.

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