Quote Originally Posted by Deborski View Post
Bob, I have stated before and I will state again, that I am not going to be drawn into an argument about gay rights.

I have read your comments on other threads and you clearly oppose gay rights, and you obviously feel very strongly about it and want to argue about it, judging from all the underlining and emphasizing in your comments above as well as the pejorative manner in which you are supposedly "questioning" me.
I clearly stated I did not mean to insult you in any way. I tried to propose a constructive dialogue with clarifying very specific points. You expressed your opinion in the previous post which leaves many questions which are not clear to me. What I wanted here is to clarify them "step by step". I did not only ask about your own opinion, but I also asked about the way this information is interpreted in your country.
You think I am "supposedly questioning you in a pejorative manner". I am very sorry if you take it this way.
First, I was really interested in your answers. Second, I do not see what is pejorative in my questions to you. I am afraid you did not get my intentions right.

For example, you wrote that many people in the U.S. are afraid the gay athletes can be arrested during the Olympics.
I wrote:
"What makes them think they might be arrested? I hope you have heard about the law statement (that was mentioned many times here), I mean what this law prohibits and what it does not"

What is wrong in my question? I can assume they might be deliberately miss-informed about the meaning of that law. To clarify that, I asked for your opinion:
"You are saying "A lot of people in the US ... fear that gay athletes, tourists, or journalists might be arrested" - are those people in the US deliberately misinformed? What do you think of it? How do the local mass media interpret what is the Russian law about?"

I do not see anything pejorative in these questions again.

I know that you worked in the USSR, and you know about Russia better than most of people in your country. That is why I hoped you do understand that opinion is wrong (fear that someone might be arrested).

Quote Originally Posted by Deborski View Post
And I clearly support gay rights, and human rights, and I feel just as strongly as you do, and there is nothing you or I can say which is going to change our minds.
I think so. You will hardly change my mind, and I will hardly change yours. But I tried at least to understand some logic in your statements. I mainly mean the situation around boycotting the games. Why they think so, and what the mass media are telling there.

Quote Originally Posted by Deborski View Post
I see no point in discussing it with you, because this will turn into a back and forth thing which will go on forever.
That is your right, if you choose not to answer.

Quote Originally Posted by Deborski View Post
You can easily google for the "answers" you seek.
I am not interested in the google opinion. What surprises me here is that the "pro-gay" crowd chose not to notice very obvious things that were mentioned a lot of times. Mainly: Why they think someone is in danger to be prosecuted in Sochi? That is taken for granted in the "pro-gay" posts, but it is as strange as assuming "2 x 2 = 5" without any explanation why.

You wrote you saw my other comments. I would like to ask another question then, but I'm afraid you can take me wrong again... So, let it be a question with no answer. "Did you ever see a post where I wrote that gays are bad, they should not exist, they should not be treated as normal people in the society etc. If yes, then where did I write it exactly?" But OK, it's a rhetorical question then. All I did is relying on logic. It still cannot get why there is any issue with their rights in the sense of this law.

I hope you understand it at least now.