Thread: Controversial Problems in Russian and Some Other Societies

Originally Posted by 14Russian

Interesting. This is more confirmation of the hypocrisy and brainwashing by the Russian government (see Putin). Implement a bogus law and then promote the brainwashing and indoctrination via TV programming.
For the people here (probably Americans who might not know), this video is from Channel One Russia, which is owned, operated and controlled by the Government. There's also RTR which is another state-sponsored network (division) which televises the same drivel and 'left-wing' western style indoctrination.
More evidence about the two-faced, hypocritical Putin regime.
Channel One Russia - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

This is very interesting since the Moscow Duma was the one that was refusing to pass anti-gay legislation.
Boris Moiseev | The Disorder Of Things
Russia: Moscow region rejects anti-gay bill / Russia / Country-by-country / Guide to Europe / Home / ilga - ILGA Europe

Also, it's easy to just say "State Owned" or "Government Controlled". But the truth is that the Dumas contain hundreds of deputies - each one having his own views - and legislation has to be passed with a vote.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_Duma
Russian parliament passes bill that imposes fines for gay pride rallies, info sharing | Fox News

I do think the 436-0 vote is a little suspicious but I'm also kinda suprised to learn that the regional Moscow Duma was so much more opposed to the anti-gay bill.
It just looks like the Moscow Duma was supporting the "gay" TV programming while the Russian Parliament was not. A political split.
Now I'm curious. How much do decisions in regional Dumas affect what happens in the Russian Parliament?

Originally Posted by UhOhXplode

This is very interesting since the Moscow Duma was the one that was refusing to pass anti-gay legislation.
Boris Moiseev | The Disorder Of Things
Russia: Moscow region rejects anti-gay bill / Russia / Country-by-country / Guide to Europe / Home / ilga - ILGA Europe

Also, it's easy to just say "State Owned" or "Government Controlled". But the truth is that the Dumas contain hundreds of deputies - each one having his own views - and legislation has to be passed with a vote.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_Duma
Russian parliament passes bill that imposes fines for gay pride rallies, info sharing | Fox News

I do think the 436-0 vote is a little suspicious but I'm also kinda suprised to learn that the regional Moscow Duma was so much more opposed to the anti-gay bill.
It just looks like the Moscow Duma was supporting the "gay" TV programming while the Russian Parliament was not. A political split.
Now I'm curious. How much do decisions in regional Dumas affect what happens in the Russian Parliament?

"...each one having his own views" Who cares? What matters is what the government decides to implement. I would even debate whether 'each' has their own view. Not the ones with ties to the party.

My point is the 'anti-gay' bill is really redundant when you note what kind of TV programming they put out. The suggestion that 'most Russians' ignore it or don't get swayed by the propaganda is really irrelevant to the point. Although, I am not disputing it at all and good for them. I didn't criticize Russians in those posts or say they were getting 'brainwashed' although I suggest it could be influencing a great number. Maybe people here like Hanna never talk to Russians outside this site but I do and I come across others. Take a look at facebook and vk pages and tell me they don't watch that stuff. A lot of the media is delivering 'western style' propaganda and considering the population, it only has to reach a proportion of the population.

However, my point wasn't even any of that. I was illustrating the hypocrisy of this theme and the 'fake' stance that the Government was taking. It's not a 'political split' as you put it. It's delivering two conflictory messages. It's a political ploy 101. Say two different things simultaneously. What I wanted to do is show to those sympathetic to Putin and 'support' the law, that he doesn't care about it at all. The TV programming proves it. Also, I don't care whether there's more private networks in Russia. These are probably operated and owned by Oligarchs and Elites that hold some power. They are probably in Putin's pocket or vice vera. It doesn't really matter.

Hanna made a comment that there's all kinds of various Rusisans, some are 'pro-West' etc. That is probably true but in being 'pro-West', they are being manipulated. It's on purpose. I am glad that many Russians are 'awake' to all this.