Thread: Я тоже

Originally Posted by Dobry

Originally Posted by charlestonian

Here is something you may find interesting:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/worldservice/learn ... tv78.shtml


'So do I' / 'me too'


C Mathiack from Germany asks:

When can you replace So do I etc, with Me too’?


Roger replies:

Me too works quite well in simple exchanges such as:
'I’m hungry - Me too.' OR 'So am I.'

'I’m feeling very sleepy.' 'Me too.'

'I think I’ll go to bed.' 'So will I.'

It’s not very common as a stand-alone phrase with other pronouns, apart from You too? as a question, registering surprise, as in:
'I failed my maths exam.' 'You too? So did I!'

We would be unlikely to say: He too or Her too or They too, although we can use this construction if it is part of a longer utterance, as in:
'Maggie couldn’t go and he too discovered that he was unable to attend the December board meeting owing to a prior commitment.'
Note that the converse of Me too is Nor me or Me neither:
'I don’t fancy climbing to the top of this mountain this afternoon.' 'Me neither.'

'I’m not going to Jane’s party on Saturday.' 'Nor me.'




Note that the so construction is used to agree with a positive statement and the nor or neither construction is used to agree with a negative statement. It can be used with all tense forms and all modal verbs, so you need to be careful to select the right auxiliary verb or modal. Consider the following:
'I can’t swim.' 'Nor can I.'

'They shouldn’t have said they could help him.' 'Neither should I.'

'We stayed at the Shangri-La in Penang.' 'What a coincidence! So did we.'

'Marjorie’s going to live in Edinburgh – near the Cathedral.' 'So’s Jack – opposite the National Gallery.'

'I hate travelling all the way to Scotland by coach.' 'So do I.'

'I was so tired by the time we got there.' 'So were the other passengers.'

'We haven’t forgotten that it’s Sid’s birthday next week.' 'Neither have we.'

I'm worrying now that we're muddying the waters.

"So do I", "Me too", "Me also", "I too" are all responses to situations or questions.

Their meanings are essentially the same. Any of these can be used and understood.

Please, no worries anyone, especially Оля.

"Я тоже" is so much simpler.

You are right. I should've deleted everything after 'I’m feeling very sleepy.' 'Me too.'
The rest was just FYI...
Please note though that this is from the British site, and they also use "me too."

I too believe that it sounds perfectly normal to use "I too" in writing.

"I too have been beaten up by skinheads"

It sounds a bit formal and a more conversational variant would be to use "also" or change the word order.

"I also have been beaten up..."
"I have been beaten up too/also..."

Originally Posted by basurero

I too believe that it sounds perfectly normal to use "I too" in writing.

"I too have been beaten up by skinheads"

It sounds a bit formal and a more conversational variant would be to use "also" or change the word order.

"I also have been beaten up..."
"I have been beaten up too/also..."

Yes, this is correct, and a very good point in English grammar.

The difference...

"I too."

"I too + verb (past or past-perfect)"... here, we are creating a full sentence with subject/pronoun + past verb tense.

In writing, this sounds natural, if you use a complete sentence.

Yes this is correct and O.K.

BUT... "I too." is not a complete sentence. It is a only a spoken remark, a spoken response... but not a complete sentence.

And it is not a natural response in spoken English.

The original question refers to only the two words, "I too." as a simple response or remark.

Do you see the difference?

Examples:

I want to ride the rollercoaster!
Me too!

You guys ready for another drink?
Me also! Don't forget me!

I was harassed by skinheads during the festival.
I too was harassed by them. (complete sentence)
or...

Me too!/Me also! (incomplete sentence, remark, response... colloquial, and natural spoken English.)

Yeah, remember that "me too + verb" can not be used unless "me" is the direct object. Examplified

Anna: Do you want to go to Tulipanistan, Bob?
Victor: Me too want to go! [ERROR]
Victor: I want to go too! // I too want to go! [CORRECT]

Anna: Bob, did George give you money for your sexual favors?
Victor: George gave money to me too.

Anna: Who wants half an apple?
George: Me!
Victor: Me too!