Results 1 to 9 of 9

Thread: easy Q. on phrasal verbs

  1. #1
    Завсегдатай
    Join Date
    Oct 2005
    Location
    Ukraine
    Posts
    5,076
    Rep Power
    22

    easy Q. on phrasal verbs

    Two examples from the book:
    1) Please try not to wake the baby up.
    2) You'll wake up the whole family if you don't keep quiet.

    Is it correct to say vice versa (i.e. "wake up the baby"/"wake the whole family up")? There is probably a rule which determines the position of the direct object in the sentences with phrasal verbs.

  2. #2
    Почётный участник
    Join Date
    Aug 2005
    Posts
    125
    Rep Power
    10
    "Wake up the baby/wake up the whole family" and "wake the baby up/wake the whole family up"

    Either way they are all correct.

  3. #3
    DDT
    DDT is offline
    Завсегдатай DDT's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2004
    Location
    I have given up the Gambling, the Wine and the Cows!.. I'm back now! ....nope Im gone again!
    Posts
    3,364
    Rep Power
    14
    You can even say, "Try not to wake the baby" and it will be correct also mean the same.
    Let me be a free man, free to travel, free to stop, free to work, free to trade where I choose, free to choose my own teachers, free to follow the religion of my fathers, free to talk, think and act for myself. - Chief Joseph, Nez Perce

  4. #4
    Завсегдатай
    Join Date
    Oct 2005
    Location
    Ukraine
    Posts
    5,076
    Rep Power
    22
    Ok, thanks. So this particular phr.verb "wake up" can be used in both ways. But that's not always so, right? I suppose I should just memorize which phr. verbs allow me to use object before particle and whicn don't.

  5. #5
    Завсегдатай
    Join Date
    Apr 2005
    Posts
    3,216
    Rep Power
    13
    "Try not to wake the baby" sounds the best.

  6. #6
    DDT
    DDT is offline
    Завсегдатай DDT's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2004
    Location
    I have given up the Gambling, the Wine and the Cows!.. I'm back now! ....nope Im gone again!
    Posts
    3,364
    Rep Power
    14
    You don't need to use "up" in sentence 2 either.

    I think "up" is used only to stress the point.

    The only time I can think that "up" needs to be used is in the imperative such as when you are telling someone to, "Wake up!" As in, "Now get out of bed and get dressed and go to work you lazy bum."
    Let me be a free man, free to travel, free to stop, free to work, free to trade where I choose, free to choose my own teachers, free to follow the religion of my fathers, free to talk, think and act for myself. - Chief Joseph, Nez Perce

  7. #7
    Новичок
    Join Date
    Aug 2006
    Posts
    2
    Rep Power
    0
    some notes from the grammar course in the University:
    the place of the particle in phrasal verbs is determined by the object, i.e. if an object is represented by a noun, the position if the particle isn't strict. though the particle must always be placed after an object, if it is represented by a pronoun.
    E.g. lift up the baby
    lift the baby up
    But: lift me up

    hope, everything is clear

  8. #8
    Завсегдатай sperk's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2006
    Location
    США
    Posts
    2,284
    Rep Power
    13

    Re: easy Q. on phrasal verbs

    [quote="gRomoZeka"]Two examples from the book:
    1) Please try not to wake the baby up.
    you shouldn't end sentences with a preposition.
    2) You'll wake up the whole family if you don't keep quiet.

    The use of up in these sentences implies a kind of emphasis or stress and
    is usually omitted unless the emotional context demands it. Try not to memorize rules, rather get as much exposure to the written and spoken language.
    Кому - нары, кому - Канары.

  9. #9
    Завсегдатай
    Join Date
    Oct 2005
    Location
    Ukraine
    Posts
    5,076
    Rep Power
    22

    Re: easy Q. on phrasal verbs

    Thanks, Scraty!

    Quote Originally Posted by sperk
    Try not to memorize rules, rather get as much exposure to the written and spoken language.
    That's what I do usually. But sometimes speaking/writing by intuition gives hilarious result, so I'm trying now to improve my grammar skills.

Similar Threads

  1. phrasal help
    By kamka in forum English
    Replies: 1
    Last Post: November 11th, 2006, 10:31 PM
  2. The phrasal verbs
    By Chuvak in forum Learn English - Грамматика, переводы, словарный запас
    Replies: 19
    Last Post: April 4th, 2006, 11:13 PM
  3. easy question
    By tim in forum Grammar and Vocabulary
    Replies: 10
    Last Post: February 12th, 2005, 04:38 PM
  4. This one was not easy
    By Ethan519 in forum Translate This!
    Replies: 2
    Last Post: December 19th, 2004, 01:11 PM
  5. This ::should:: be easy.
    By TiaraNEug in forum Translate This!
    Replies: 3
    Last Post: November 3rd, 2004, 02:37 PM

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  


Russian Lessons                           

Russian Tests and Quizzes            

Russian Vocabulary