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Could anyone help me, please? It’s about the 9th episode (серия) in

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I can’t translate the phrase “I want to jam some more.” It sounds at 9:25. The whole scene lasts 8:30 – 10:13.
I looked up the word “to jam”. The Free Dictionary reads “to participate in a jam session”. What is a jam session? Has jam anything to do with jazz?

jam - informal (in jazz or blues) improvise with other musicians.

jam session is just the noun of improving with other musicians (in jazz or blues) , session is just a period devoted to a particular activity

Of course it would also implicate "dance". It's American slang.

I can't imagine "jam" being used for classical music, or stuff like that. Mostly the type of music you heard at Tyra's clip. The dictionary only said jazz or blues.

Thank you, Valda. Now I put it "Я хочу танцевать и играть", though I don't think it's best.

A guy on the show says at 14:18 - 14:25 in
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The team that we think can do a performance while pulling off that dance hall swagger will get over $3,000 worth of jewelry from Peace-is of Bianca.

Does anyone know what Peace-is of Bianca mean?

Another guy also says at 14:26 - 14:31 in
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And don't forget, the winner of this challenge also gets $10,000 added to her scholarship bank.

I know what a scholarship is. What is a scholarship bank? I suppose it means nothing in this context, right? How much is the winner supposed to get a month in addition to her scholarship?

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According to this website,it's a brand of jewellery,which is designed by Bianca Bartley,but after all,this website explains it better!

Hope i helped,Helenej!

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According to this website,it's a brand of jewellery,which is designed by Bianca Bartley,but after all,this website explains it better!

Hope i helped,Helenej!

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It's an invaluable information, Foxy! I've been puzzling over it since yesterday and had no idea what to make up instead of that. Thank you very much.
P.S. I'd been trying to look it up, I swear.

What on earth is she saying at 16:05 in
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At first, I feel like there is some bumps and there is some hiccups.

Can anyone rephrase or explain that?

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What on earth is she saying at 16:05 in
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At first, I feel like there is some bumps and there is some hiccups.

Can anyone rephrase or explain that?

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You have it correct, bumps and hiccups. It means that along the way she hit a few bumps in the road or had a few hiccups in a otherwise smooth perfect refine meal. Does that make more sense?

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Originally Posted by rockzmom

At first, I feel like there is some bumps and there is some hiccups.

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I'm not sure if that's the final translation Lena, but it would need to be rephrased; i.e., "At first, I felt like there were some bumps and hiccups." It might have to change, too, according to the context of the paragraph, tense, etc.

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Originally Posted by rockzmom

You have it correct, bumps and hiccups. It means that along the way she hit a few bumps in the road or had a few hiccups in a otherwise smooth perfect refine meal. Does that make more sense?

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But the girl had neither driven anywhere before that nor eaten anything which we know about. Did you watch that scene in the video I linked? Perhaps you mean it’s an idiomatic expression? If so, does it mean that first it was difficult for her to learn and practice that dance?

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Originally Posted by kgcole

I'm not sure if that's the final translation Lena, but it would need to be rephrased; i.e., "At first, I felt like there were some bumps and hiccups." It might have to change, too, according to the context of the paragraph, tense, etc.

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I'm starting to feel that "bumps and hiccups" is not an idiomatic expression in the English language. Did the girl just say what she was feeling? Did she just give her own comparison of her difficulties with bumps and hiccups?

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Originally Posted by Lena

I'm starting to feel that "bumps and hiccups" is not an idiomatic expression in the English language. Did the girl just say what she was feeling? Did she just give her own comparison of her difficulties with bumps and hiccups?

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Watch this and maybe it will help...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=3lWtAe2pPJc


You can read the text here

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Originally Posted by rockzmom

Watch this and maybe it will help.

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So, they both are idioms. The video was really helpful, rockzmom. Thank you.
I also looked up the whole resourse and was amazed at it. Its having subtitles was a pleasant bonus.

Here is another use of hiccup from one of my daughter's favorite films... Pride and Prejudice...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=cTZAzVzFShw


"Nethefield Park is let at last. Have you heard who has taken it?" (Mrs. Bennet)
"I have." (Mr. Bennet)
"Is he amiable?" (Mrs. Bennet)
"Is he handsome?" (Kitty)
"He's single!!" (Kitty and Lydia)
"I believe so." (Mr. Bennet)
"He's here!" (Kitty)
"Oh my goodness, everybody behave naturally!" (Mrs. Bennet)
"Mr. Collins at your service." (Mr. Collins)


The Bennet sisters were looking for husbands... (Narrator)


"Which are only obtained through intercourse...forgive me, through the intercourse." (Mr. Collins)


But Lizzie Bennet wanted more... (Narrator)


"Only the deepest love will persuade me into matrimony." (Elizabeth Bennet)
"Mr. Collins, I cannot accept you!" (Lizzie)
"Don't worry, we'll have this little hiccup dealt with immediately." (Mrs. Bennet)
"Headstrong, is she?" (Mr. Collins)
"That is Mr. Darcy." (Charlotte)
"He looks miserable, poor soul." (Lizzie)
"Miserable he maybe, but poor he most certainly is not." (Charlotte)
"We must all visit him at once." (Mrs. Bennet)
"A Mrs. Bennet, A Miss Bennet, A Miss Bennet, and A Miss Bennet, sir." (Netherfield Butler)
"Do you dance Mr. Darcy?" (Lizzie)
"Not if I can help it." (Mr. Darcy)
"Very strange." (Lady Catherine)
"I do not have the talent in conversing easily with the people." (Mr. Darcy)
"Perhaps you should practice." (Lizzie)
"May have the next dance, Miss Elizabeth?" (Mr. Darcy)
"It would be most inconvenient since I've sworn to loathe him for all eternity...You may." (Lizzie)
"He's so..." (Lizzie)
"He's so what?" (Mrs. Gardiner)
"He's so rich." (Lizzie)
"What on earth have you done to poor Mr. Darcy?" (Charlotte)
"I have no idea." (Lizzie)
"Mr. Darcy is engage to my daughter. Do you think it can be prevented by a young woman of inferior birth?" (Lady Catherine)
"I've been so blind." (Lizzie)
"He's been a fool, but then...so have I." (Lizzie)
"We are all fools in love." (Charlotte)
"You were the last man in the world I could ever marry." (Lizzie)

Those were all some good examples of idioms. You know Lena, your English is good enough that you could really benefit by learning more idioms to make your language more natural and familiar. Think "comfortable".

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Originally Posted by rockzmom

Here is another use of hiccup from one of my daughter's favorite films... Pride and Prejudice...

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Thank you, Rockzmom. The subtitles were helpful as in your previous link. I was amused by the phrase:

“Which are only obtained through intercourse...forgive me, through the intercourse."

I somehow managed to catch the meaning and humor of it. It’s so amazing how the article "the" makes the difference. I wish I could feel that. I looked it up in the Russian version of the movie to make sure of my surmise and it turned out to be much more bulkier and awkward:

“Которые приятней всего получать посредством сношений…прошу прощения, посредством дружеских сношений и обмена любезностями”.

I can imagine how long the translator puzzled over it. :)

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Originally Posted by kgcole

Those were all some good examples of idioms. You know Lena, your English is good enough that you could really benefit by learning more idioms to make your language more natural and familiar. Think "comfortable".

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Thanks, Kevin. I'm working on it.

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Thank you, Rockzmom. The subtitles were helpful as in your previous link. I was amused by the phrase:

“Which are only obtained through intercourse...forgive me, through the intercourse."

I somehow managed to catch the meaning and humor of it. It’s so amazing how the article "the" makes the difference. I wish I could feel that. I looked it up in the Russian version of the movie to make sure of my surmise and it turned out to be much more bulkier and awkward:

“Которые приятней всего получать посредством сношений…прошу прощения, посредством дружеских сношений и обмена любезностями”.

I can imagine how long the translator puzzled over it. :)

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Yes, that line is a very funny line and a great example of how one word being left out can make a huge difference in the meaning of your sentence. It is punctuated by the fact that Mr. Collins is such a proper and upstanding character and therefore when he does say it, he is taken aback by what he has said and even more so that he has said it during his own sermon for which he has practiced so diligently.

The English language sadly uses the same words for so many things, I really don't know how non-natives learn the language.

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Yes, that line is a very funny line and a great example of how one word being left out can make a huge difference in the meaning of your sentence.

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The most amazing thing about this line is that it is the article that makes the difference. The article, an unnecessary, insignificant and wothless part of speech from my Russian point of view. I’ve known articles for years yet it is often so difficult to make the proper choice. I think that the problem of using articles and the Present Perfect in English can be compared with that of using verb aspects in Russian. One can learn that for all their life and yet make mistakes.

Can anyone tell me what the words "I'm too cool for school to act like this" mean in the following passage, that sounds at 34:55 – 35:15 in

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She can't help the fact that she looks sexy in the picture 'cause she is a pretty girl. The only thing...every time I work with you, it still seems like you don't want it. And it's almost like, "I'm too cool for school to act like this or go all out." Like, say you come in for a casting. Well, I need you to act the fool for me right now. What are you gonna do? You can't just stand there and be like, "Uh... uh..."

Is it "I'm too cool to be taught to act like this" or just "I'm too cool to act like this"? What is "for school"? Maybe "cool for school" is an idiom?

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Is it "I'm too cool to be taught to act like this" or just "I'm too cool to act like this"?

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Yes -- or, to be more exact, it's "I mistakenly think that I'm too cool for this," because "too cool for school" is usually (though not always) sarcastic. Way back in 1940, the Fox and the Cat told Pinocchio that books and education are for losers, and that he should follow the glamorous life of an actor, instead:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NcBw3F2DYp4

...of course, we know that Pinocchio ends up being turned into a donkey and gets swallowed by a whale, etc.

And when I was a kid in the 1980s, there were various made-for-TV movies about teenagers who think that School Isn't Cool, so they run away to Hollywood in order to become Famous Movie Stars, but within a matter of months they're having sex with truck drivers to buy heroin, and they get pregnant and have an illegitimate baby with HIV and accidentally feed the poor child a box of rat-poison in the mistaken belief that it's baby cereal -- being totally unable to read the words "DANGER RAT POISON DO NOT EAT" because they were too cool for school!!!!

I agree with Throbert on the "too cool for school" analogies. I think the statement is generaly saying, "I'm too cool for school, (and therefore) too cool to act like this." Although I would say, Lena, that its probably more of a young urban phrase, because quite frankly I've never heard it said around my part of the world...lol. If you're into the gang slang and hip hop, urban type language, it may be used more often. Definitely from a youthful vocabulary, though.

Thank you very much for your explanations, Throbert and Kevin.
You know, Kevin, the word “urban” has always confused me in the meaning of “characteristic of the city or city life” in the context of languages. So does the name of the Urban Dictionary.
Urban Dictionary: gal
I quite agree that such a slang can be characteristic of young people. But the fact it is associated with cities puzzles me a lot. I think here in Ukraine all young people, both in cities and villages, use the same language including foul language. Indeed, that depends on the cultural level of every particular individual. Do you really mean that young people living in cities use a language different from that of young countrypeople? Or does that mean that there are no young people living in the country in the US?

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Do you really mean that young people living in cities use a language different from that of young countrypeople? Or does that mean that there are no young people living in the country in the US?

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Well, in my opinion I think there's a distinct difference in culture between young people of the cities and those of the country. They dress differently, talk differently. One might even say they have different values. There may be similarities, but still there are the differences. It surprises me that you may not have the same thing in Ukraine.

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Well, in my opinion I think there's a distinct difference in culture between young people of the cities and those of the country. They dress differently, talk differently. One might even say they have different values. There may be similarities, but still there are the differences. It surprises me that you may not have the same thing in Ukraine.

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Possibly, the main reason of that lies in the fact that there is hardly any work here in villages and small towns. People have to migrate to cities in search of work. Living in cities means a better life for them. That may be the reason they consider many urban features more prestigious and classy, and that includes language. Besides they watch television and there’s lot of slang and foul language in movies and soaps. Of course they use the “urban” language only in their company. I don’t think they use much slang and foul language with their moms for that only reason that their parents may not understand them and won’t admire them for being “cool”. It’s just my supposition, I don’t know for sure. But in my business I often meet young people who have just arrived from the country and I always like to find out a lot of details about them and their language as well.

Shouldn’t Tyra have said "has" instead of "have" at 0:10 – 0:22 ?

And guess what, Brittany. Right now we are going to find
out which of the eliminated girls have the highest social
media score average. And you will be included in that.

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I cannot even imagine someone saying in Russian "Сейчас мы узнаем, кто из девушек получили высшую оценку".

кто (из девушек) получил. Кто - masculine

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кто (из девушек) получил. Кто - masculine

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Exactly. That's what I'm saying: no one would say получили in this sentence in Russian meaning that only one of them can get the highest score.

But is Tyra correct? I would say she is not, but when I watch a show that is sold worldwide I'm beginning to feel that I was wrong.

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Originally Posted by Lena

Shouldn’t Tyra have said "has" instead of "have" at 0:10 – 0:22 ?

And guess what, Brittany. Right now we are going to find
out which of the eliminated girls have the highest social
media score average. And you will be included in that.

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Yes, the correct word to use there would have been "has" ....

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Yes, the correct word to use there would have been "has" ....

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Is it a common mistake? I mean do Americans make this mistake sometimes or was Tyra's usage of "have" just a slip in speaking?

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Is it a common mistake? I mean do Americans make this mistake sometimes or was Tyra's usage of "have" just a slip in speaking?

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I didn't listen to the video, Lena, but it was probably just a slip in the language. It happens, especially when someone is nervous, like in front of a camera...lol

I have come across some more cases of the wrong subject-predicate agreement in the continuity, and not on the part of the models only: I understand that they have various backgrounds. I wish I remembered them. :sad:

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Possibly, the main reason of that lies in the fact that there is hardly any work here in villages and small towns. People have to migrate to cities in search of work..

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I imagine that's a common phenomenon...jobs being more available in cities. But I think rural communities can also be an opportunity to provide certain services that one usually has to go into the city to find.

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I imagine that's a common phenomenon...jobs being more available in cities. But I think rural communities can also be an opportunity to provide certain services that one usually has to go into the city to find.

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Maybe communities do something, but very little. They have no money to even make roads for people. They only make patches on roads once a couple of years. Rural communities officials are only busy doing bribery for giving land plots while they must give them to people for free.

People can start their own businesses in the country and they do. But any business needs to be profitable in order to survive. If the demand for a certain service is weak the business will have to shut up. You couldn’t live on embroidering living in a small village, could you? Look at this. It’s the list of all local authorities bodies (рада) in Kiev region. Click a number in the “Кількість сільських населених пунктів” column. Now in the first column you can see the names of villages that relate to a particular рада. Each village name is introduced by the letter “с”. Then click any village name and in line 7 you will see the number of its residents in thousands. Most of the villages total two or three hundred people, the smallest totals 16 people I guess. What business can survive there?
http://w1.c1.rada.gov.ua/pls/z7502/A...8&rf7571=14962

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Maybe communities do something, but very little. They have no money to even make roads for people. They only make patches on roads once a couple of years. Rural communities officials are only busy doing bribery for giving land plots while they must give them to people for free.

People can start their own businesses in the country and they do. But any business needs to be profitable in order to survive. If the demand for a certain service is weak the business will have to shut up. You couldn’t live on embroidering living in a small village, could you? Look at this. It’s the list of all local authorities bodies (рада) in Kiev region. Click a number in the “Кількість сільських населених пунктів” column. Now in the first column you can see the names of villages that relate to a particular рада. Each village name is introduced by the letter “с”. Then click any village name and in line 7 you will see the number of its residents in thousands. Most of the villages total two or three hundred people, the smallest totals 16 people I guess. What business can survive there?
http://w1.c1.rada.gov.ua/pls/z7502/A...8&rf7571=14962

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That's too bad there's widespread bribery. Doesn't say much for the fairness of a system. I see your point about the small villages, and you're right about business...it can't survive without profit. I live in an area where salaries are depressed and most people are looking to buy as much as they can for as little as possible. But then that's always the case, isn't it?

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Most people are looking to buy as much as they can for as little as possible. But then that's always the case, isn't it?

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I'm sure it is. Always and everywhere. And the same at every level of the society in a way. :)

Btw, I have a question to you. Did you watch the video at

http://masterrussian.net/f26/test-work-russia-20524/

The first sentence is “… started work around 6AM”. What would you say when speaking about yourself, let’s say, to your sister? Would it be I started work at 6AM or at 6 o’clock in the morning or at 6 in the morning? I mean if you had to indicate it was in the morning. 6AM seems too official to me as for speaking to one’s people.

It amuses me greatly to watch 0:48 – 0:50, when the officer speaks in a insincerely kind tone: “Заявление. Спасибо.” I bet he never speaks like that at work. He would never use this tone and he would never say спасибо in this situation. He just knows he is being filmed. How sad.

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I'm sure it is. Always and everywhere. And the same at every level of the society in a way. :)

Btw, I have a question to you. Did you watch the video at

http://masterrussian.net/f26/test-work-russia-20524/

The first sentence is “… started work around 6AM”. What would you say when speaking about yourself, let’s say, to your sister? Would it be I started work at 6AM or at 6 o’clock in the morning or at 6 in the morning? I mean if you had to indicate it was in the morning. 6AM seems too official to me as for speaking to one’s people.

It amuses me greatly to watch 0:48 – 0:50, when the officer speaks in a insincerely kind tone: “Заявление. Спасибо.” I bet he never speaks like that at work. He would never use this tone and he would never say спасибо in this situation. He just knows he is being filmed. How sad.

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hmm, I imagine the situation dictates how time would be said. On a newscast like that, it would be expected they would say, "...started work at 6AM". But you're right, if I were talking to my sister I'd probably say, "I started work at 6," or "I started work at 6 in the morning." It depends on whether it's definitely known what time of the day you're talking about. I might also say, "I started this morning at 6."

I suppose we all act differently when we know we're being filmed. It's a natural tendency.

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I suppose we all act differently when we know we're being filmed. It's a natural tendency.

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I agree, differently, but not absolutely differently. First, he would never thank anyone from this crowd, people who have been waiting at least an hour in the line, people who so greatly depend on his favorable decision. Never. And second, you just cannot estimate his fake tone. Only listen how he sings the word заявление. He is obviously overdoing it for this only reason that he never in his life thanked anyone for handing an application form over him.

I know all those officials, I remember very well how my daughter was spoken to when she was applying for her foreign passport after spending about six hours in the line. I also remember well how I was spoken to in the American embassy. I came there after my daughter had spent more than four hours there and I couldn’t get in touch with her because visitors are forbidden to have cellphones about them. I only asked a guard if it is possible to be interviewed for such a long time. He replied that everything is possible and immediately told me to leave the building in a rude manner before I opened my mouth in order to ask another question. When I lingered for five more seconds just standing and doubting if she was still inside, he asked loudly if I had heard his order well. And so on and so on. I can hardly remember facing anything different from sheer indifference and hostility with government bodies.

I’m afraid you just cannot imagine this living in absolutely different world. But this is the way things are both in Ukraine and Russia. I just feel the officer’s hypocricy with my skin.

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I agree, differently, but not absolutely differently. First, he would never thank anyone from this crowd, people who have been waiting at least an hour in the line, people who so greatly depend on his favorable decision. Never. And second, you just cannot estimate his fake tone. Only listen how he sings the word заявление. He is obviously overdoing it for this only reason that he never in his life thanked anyone for handing an application form over him.

I know all those officials, I remember very well how my daughter was spoken to when she was applying for her foreign passport after spending about six hours in the line. I also remember well how I was spoken to in the American embassy. I came there after my daughter had spent more than four hours there and I couldn’t get in touch with her because visitors are forbidden to have cellphones about them. I only asked a guard if it is possible to be interviewed for such a long time. He replied that everything is possible and immediately told me to leave the building in a rude manner before I opened my mouth in order to ask another question. When I lingered for five more seconds just standing and doubting if she was still inside, he asked loudly if I had heard his order well. And so on and so on. I can hardly remember facing anything different from sheer indifference and hostility with government bodies.

I’m afraid you just cannot imagine this living in absolutely different world. But this is the way things are both in Ukraine and Russia. I just feel the officer’s hypocricy with my skin.

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Well, it's no excuse, but government workers of most any country tend to be short-tempered because of the volume of people they deal with, and the repititiousness of their work. I myself became irritable with the retail business scene because of the incessant and obtrusive demands of the public. I've since mellowed quite a bit, but I know how great numbers of people crowding in on your work can make one feel...lol. I can only imagine how it would be in an office dedicated to visa/passport processing. It doesn't surprise me, your story concerning your daughter.