Thread: America's Next Top Model

Originally Posted by Lena

Possibly, the main reason of that lies in the fact that there is hardly any work here in villages and small towns. People have to migrate to cities in search of work..

I imagine that's a common phenomenon...jobs being more available in cities. But I think rural communities can also be an opportunity to provide certain services that one usually has to go into the city to find.

Originally Posted by kgcole

I imagine that's a common phenomenon...jobs being more available in cities. But I think rural communities can also be an opportunity to provide certain services that one usually has to go into the city to find.

Maybe communities do something, but very little. They have no money to even make roads for people. They only make patches on roads once a couple of years. Rural communities officials are only busy doing bribery for giving land plots while they must give them to people for free.

People can start their own businesses in the country and they do. But any business needs to be profitable in order to survive. If the demand for a certain service is weak the business will have to shut up. You couldn’t live on embroidering living in a small village, could you? Look at this. It’s the list of all local authorities bodies (рада) in Kiev region. Click a number in the “Кількість сільських населених пунктів” column. Now in the first column you can see the names of villages that relate to a particular рада. Each village name is introduced by the letter “с”. Then click any village name and in line 7 you will see the number of its residents in thousands. Most of the villages total two or three hundred people, the smallest totals 16 people I guess. What business can survive there?
http://w1.c1.rada.gov.ua/pls/z7502/A...8&rf7571=14962

Originally Posted by Lena

Maybe communities do something, but very little. They have no money to even make roads for people. They only make patches on roads once a couple of years. Rural communities officials are only busy doing bribery for giving land plots while they must give them to people for free.

People can start their own businesses in the country and they do. But any business needs to be profitable in order to survive. If the demand for a certain service is weak the business will have to shut up. You couldn’t live on embroidering living in a small village, could you? Look at this. It’s the list of all local authorities bodies (рада) in Kiev region. Click a number in the “Кількість сільських населених пунктів” column. Now in the first column you can see the names of villages that relate to a particular рада. Each village name is introduced by the letter “с”. Then click any village name and in line 7 you will see the number of its residents in thousands. Most of the villages total two or three hundred people, the smallest totals 16 people I guess. What business can survive there?
http://w1.c1.rada.gov.ua/pls/z7502/A...8&rf7571=14962

That's too bad there's widespread bribery. Doesn't say much for the fairness of a system. I see your point about the small villages, and you're right about business...it can't survive without profit. I live in an area where salaries are depressed and most people are looking to buy as much as they can for as little as possible. But then that's always the case, isn't it?

Originally Posted by kgcole

Most people are looking to buy as much as they can for as little as possible. But then that's always the case, isn't it?

I'm sure it is. Always and everywhere. And the same at every level of the society in a way.

Btw, I have a question to you. Did you watch the video at

Test to work in Russia

The first sentence is “… started work around 6AM”. What would you say when speaking about yourself, let’s say, to your sister? Would it be I started work at 6AM or at 6 o’clock in the morning or at 6 in the morning? I mean if you had to indicate it was in the morning. 6AM seems too official to me as for speaking to one’s people.

It amuses me greatly to watch 0:48 – 0:50, when the officer speaks in a insincerely kind tone: “Заявление. Спасибо.” I bet he never speaks like that at work. He would never use this tone and he would never say спасибо in this situation. He just knows he is being filmed. How sad.

Originally Posted by Lena

I'm sure it is. Always and everywhere. And the same at every level of the society in a way.

Btw, I have a question to you. Did you watch the video at

Test to work in Russia

The first sentence is “… started work around 6AM”. What would you say when speaking about yourself, let’s say, to your sister? Would it be I started work at 6AM or at 6 o’clock in the morning or at 6 in the morning? I mean if you had to indicate it was in the morning. 6AM seems too official to me as for speaking to one’s people.

It amuses me greatly to watch 0:48 – 0:50, when the officer speaks in a insincerely kind tone: “Заявление. Спасибо.” I bet he never speaks like that at work. He would never use this tone and he would never say спасибо in this situation. He just knows he is being filmed. How sad.

hmm, I imagine the situation dictates how time would be said. On a newscast like that, it would be expected they would say, "...started work at 6AM". But you're right, if I were talking to my sister I'd probably say, "I started work at 6," or "I started work at 6 in the morning." It depends on whether it's definitely known what time of the day you're talking about. I might also say, "I started this morning at 6."

I suppose we all act differently when we know we're being filmed. It's a natural tendency.

Originally Posted by kgcole

I suppose we all act differently when we know we're being filmed. It's a natural tendency.

I agree, differently, but not absolutely differently. First, he would never thank anyone from this crowd, people who have been waiting at least an hour in the line, people who so greatly depend on his favorable decision. Never. And second, you just cannot estimate his fake tone. Only listen how he sings the word заявление. He is obviously overdoing it for this only reason that he never in his life thanked anyone for handing an application form over him.

I know all those officials, I remember very well how my daughter was spoken to when she was applying for her foreign passport after spending about six hours in the line. I also remember well how I was spoken to in the American embassy. I came there after my daughter had spent more than four hours there and I couldn’t get in touch with her because visitors are forbidden to have cellphones about them. I only asked a guard if it is possible to be interviewed for such a long time. He replied that everything is possible and immediately told me to leave the building in a rude manner before I opened my mouth in order to ask another question. When I lingered for five more seconds just standing and doubting if she was still inside, he asked loudly if I had heard his order well. And so on and so on. I can hardly remember facing anything different from sheer indifference and hostility with government bodies.

I’m afraid you just cannot imagine this living in absolutely different world. But this is the way things are both in Ukraine and Russia. I just feel the officer’s hypocricy with my skin.

Originally Posted by Lena

I agree, differently, but not absolutely differently. First, he would never thank anyone from this crowd, people who have been waiting at least an hour in the line, people who so greatly depend on his favorable decision. Never. And second, you just cannot estimate his fake tone. Only listen how he sings the word заявление. He is obviously overdoing it for this only reason that he never in his life thanked anyone for handing an application form over him.

I know all those officials, I remember very well how my daughter was spoken to when she was applying for her foreign passport after spending about six hours in the line. I also remember well how I was spoken to in the American embassy. I came there after my daughter had spent more than four hours there and I couldn’t get in touch with her because visitors are forbidden to have cellphones about them. I only asked a guard if it is possible to be interviewed for such a long time. He replied that everything is possible and immediately told me to leave the building in a rude manner before I opened my mouth in order to ask another question. When I lingered for five more seconds just standing and doubting if she was still inside, he asked loudly if I had heard his order well. And so on and so on. I can hardly remember facing anything different from sheer indifference and hostility with government bodies.

I’m afraid you just cannot imagine this living in absolutely different world. But this is the way things are both in Ukraine and Russia. I just feel the officer’s hypocricy with my skin.

Well, it's no excuse, but government workers of most any country tend to be short-tempered because of the volume of people they deal with, and the repititiousness of their work. I myself became irritable with the retail business scene because of the incessant and obtrusive demands of the public. I've since mellowed quite a bit, but I know how great numbers of people crowding in on your work can make one feel...lol. I can only imagine how it would be in an office dedicated to visa/passport processing. It doesn't surprise me, your story concerning your daughter.