Thread: Непорядок

How can I say it in English? For example:
All the soldiers are playing football wearing civvies on the parade-ground and don't salute officers. Это непорядок.

Or:
Your courier delivered the merchandise to some riffraff at first, and only then - to the most important clients. Это непорядок.

The approximate sense is: ~It's not like it should be.

I think "It's a disorder" doesn't work here, or am I wrong?

P.S. It seems to me, the sentence sounds a bit ironical in Russian. But... maybe I'm wrong

That's not right!
That's out of order!
= it is not the right way to behave, it shouldn't happen. These phrases imply a criticism of the action.




It's a disorder sounds like they have a strange illness!

It's out of order also has a different meaning = something has stopped working properly and mustn't be used.[/i]

Оля wrote:

I think "It's a disorder" doesn't work here, or am I wrong?

Yes, you are right. Да, Вы правы.
Оля wrote:

All the soldiers are playing football wearing civvies on the parade-ground and don't salute officers. . . .
Or:
Your courier delivered the merchandise to some riffraff at first, and only then - to the most important clients. . . .
The approximate sense is: ~It's not like it should be.

This is not a translation, but maybe: Это не перевод, но возможно: That's bizarre.

bizarre - very strange and unusual:
- a bizarre situation
- bizarre behaviour

Cambridge Advanced Learner's Dictionary http://dictionary.cambridge.org/define. ... &dict=CALD
Mandy: This is just another thought, I'm not a disagreeing with what you wrote.

Originally Posted by Оля

All the soldiers are playing football wearing civvies

By the way, I have another question: is "wearing xxx" a correct turn of speech?
For example:
I see a man with hat
I see a man wearing hat
Here's coming a man wearing hat

?

[quote=Оля]

Originally Posted by "Оля":2f63e76b

All the soldiers are playing football wearing civvies

By the way, I have another question: is "wearing xxx" a correct turn of speech?
For example:
I see a man with a hat
I see a man wearing a hat

Here comes

a man wearing

Code:

a

hat

?[/quote:2f63e76b]
Да Ja Si.

Sorry xRoosterx, but I didn't understand your post at all.

Originally Posted by Оля

How can I say it in English? For example:
All the soldiers are playing football wearing civvies on the parade-ground and don't salute officers. Это непорядок.
The approximate sense is: ~It's not like it should be.

P.S. It seems to me, the sentence sounds a bit ironical in Russian. But... maybe I'm wrong :)

Another version, similar to "It's bizarre": "That's a bit odd"

wearing - I say soldiers in civvies because it is similar to "in uniform". You can say wearing uniform, but not really "wearing civvies"; it is clear that a soldier will wear a uniform or, if not in uniform, he will be in civvies.

After wearing you expect a description of a particular item of clothing. .. a hat, etc.

"are playing football " ........ aren't saluting ( sounds more natural, as they aren't saluting during the game but it's not going to continue indefinately - not always ).

Оля wrote:

is "wearing xxx" a correct turn of speech?

Yes, when xxx is plural (множественное число).
When xxx is singular (единственное число), you need an article (артикль) before xxx.

So xRoosterx corrected you for the article "a": I see a man wearing a hat. (any hat любая шляпа)

Here is the definite article "the": I see a man wearing the hat. (a certain/specific hat определенная шляпа)

Here is the plural: I see a man wearing hats. (two or more hats две или больше шляпы)

By the way "civvies" is plural. http://dictionary.cambridge.org/define. ... &dict=CALD

Originally Posted by Оля

Sorry xRoosterx, but I didn't understand your post at all.

He forgot that you only speak English. He mean to say 'Yes'. :P

Yes, it's correct, but you need the indefinite article before the noun.

"a hat"

Ken, you beat me by 1 minute.

So there is no difference between:
I see a man with a hat
I see a man wearing a hat
?

What about "Here's coming a man wearing a hat"? Is it correct (and sounds natural)?

Matroskin Kot wrote:

Ken, you beat me by 1 minute.

Sorry, it was not intentional. This topic was quiet for awhile.

By the way, I've been wondering, how do you quote a portion of a previous post like I see others doing? I'm not doing something right because when I say xxx wrote, it comes out on the left side rather than right above the quote.

Оля wrote:

So there is no difference between:
I see a man with a hat
I see a man wearing a hat

Well there may be a difference. For example the "man with a hat" may be holding the hat in his hand, and so he is not wearing the hat.
Оля wrote:

What about "Here's coming a man wearing a hat"? Is it correct (and sounds natural)?

No, it is not quite correct. Here is the correct version: Here comes a man wearing a hat. (This version sounds natural)

Originally Posted by Ken Watts

No, it is not quite correct. Here is the correct version: Here comes a man wearing a hat. (This version sounds natural)

Oh, at last! Thank you.

Sorry about that, Olya.)

Originally Posted by Ken Watts

This is not a translation, but maybe: Это не перевод, но возможно: That's bizarre.

bizarre - very strange and unusual:
- a bizarre situation
- bizarre behaviour

Cambridge Advanced Learner's Dictionary http://dictionary.cambridge.org/define. ... &dict=CALD

I am afraid "bizzare" won't work here. "Непорядок" just means that something is wrong, is not done as it should be done, or is against regulations. Mandy's suggestions are much closer.

I don't think "That's strange" or "That's bizarre" work at all here as they do not imply any criticism.

Perhaps "That's unacceptable!"

Originally Posted by TATY

Perhaps "That's unacceptable!"

That's close enough, but "Непорядок" is a little bit milder.