Thread: History Lesson

Originally Posted by alexsms

On the other hand, assimilation of Slavs takes place in Greece (Slavic presence in Greece in 7-8th centuries) where Slavs completely assimilate into the Greek culture (Slavs in what is today Eastern Romania seem to mix with the local peoples and take part in Romanian ethnogenesis, though this matter is contraversial according to most Romanian scholars; Slavs in Albania are also assimilated).

Based on what you mention what I should believe about the people of FYROM who claim that Alexander the Great (who lived in 350 BC) was not Greek but Slav from the time Slavs had presence in the region after the 7th century AC (i.e. more than 1000 years after his death). Why they believe these things? Why they try to twist the Historical Truth?

Originally Posted by Antonio1986

Based on what you mention what I should believe about the people of FYROM who claim that Alexander the Great (who lived in 350 BC) was not Greek but Slav from the time Slavs had presence in the region after the 7th century AC (i.e. more than 1000 years after his death). Why they believe these things? Why they try to twist the Historical Truth?

All of these theories are only theories, they cannot be accepted as the ultimate truth. There a lot of inconsistencies in that theories and there are numerous enthusiasts trying to refute them. The problem is that most of the alternate theories have no less inconsistencies. So, maybe the people from FYROM want to believe in one of such alternative theories? Make them indulgence. Why does it bothers you so much?

Thank you now I feel more educated.
1. Conclusion 1: Not all slavs use the Cyrillic alpaphet. I didn't know that.
2. Conclusion 2: We have a separation from the other Indo-europeans in 4000 BC. So in a sense Russians and Europeans have the same old historical roots. We have a separation of the old languages to сentum/satem languages.
3. Conclusion 3: The word tsar comes from the word ceasar. First by the name tsar was Ivan the Terrible.

Perhaps you think that they teach us this things in our schools in Europe.
Not at all. The only thing we are taught for Russians is about the Russian-Japanese war in 1905, the revolution of 1905, the revolutions of 1917 - 18, the civil war, the role of Soviet Union in WWII and of course the Cold War. Nothing else. This forum should provide more historical facts if Russian history for foreigners.
We don't want just to learn the language. We want also to learn the mainstream Russian history (i.e not opinions).

P.S. What people in FYROM believes is just their problem. By the way they also believe that Cleopatra was Slav. Borrowing the history of other nations as I understood is a common practice for nations that don't have rich history. If you don't have history you don't steal it ... you just try to create your own.

Originally Posted by Antonio1986

Why they believe these things? Why they try to twist the Historical Truth?

Можно сказать так: мало ли что говорят разные люди))) One can say this - who cares what different people say on different matters. People may invent different things. At the same time critical thinking and analysis are required everywhere. Intellectual honesty, right?

The world is full of self-proclaimed experts. This site is not the exception))))