Thread: Help finding cities in Odessa region--PLEASE?

THIS MAY BE A STRETCH, BUT.....

I am researching my genealogy, and am having troubles finding some towns in or near the Odessa region of Ukraine. I have the names as given to me by my late grandmother's notes on her family. They are:

Cassel (Kassel),
Neudorf,
Funthal/Fonthal...
and they all seem to be in an area called Glueckstal (which I believe had many Germans living there).

These are the names they had in the late 1800's, so I am at a loss, finding them. Any help ANYBODY could give me would be highly appreciated!

Please either reply here, or email me at touchofblue@msn.com.

Many thanks,
B N Berry

BTW - The family last name was GRAMM; if anyone happens to know any Gramms from that area, I'd REALLY love to correspond. Thanks again.

I am actually a genealogist. I may be able to help on some of them.

Kassel was a German Russian village in South Russia (today known as Kamarovka, Ukraine). There is an mail list for discussing things about this town on rootsweb.com. I'm not sure how active the list is. To subscribe send "subscribe" to rus-gluckstal-kassel-l-request@rootsweb.com

Today the former German villages of Glueckstal and Neudorf are located in the Trans-Dniester region of the Republic of Moldova. Today the former German village of Kassel is located in Ukraine.

I can't find anything else on that other city but I will keep looking. Let me get out my older maps.

Ancestry, double posting sucks, don't you agree?

touchofblue, you make us work double as much!!!

Check out this link:

http://www.lib.ndsu.nodak.edu/grhc/medi ... h0205.html

It mentions all of the cities you are looking for. Pehaps this may give you some leads.

I will just post the same message here too, so Lampada can delete the other one.

Here I found an intersting website:

http://www.lib.ndsu.nodak.edu/grhc/hist ... index.html

Neudorf = Karmanovo (Moldova) http://www.glueckstal.org/id29.htm
Type "Karmanovo, Moldova" in Google Earth (download at google.com) and you can get a satellite view of the area (high resolution too!)


Kassel = Veliko-Komarovka (Ukraine) - http://nona.net/features/map/placedetai ... komarivka/ - type "velikoploskoye, ukraine" in Google Earth, then follow the road north and you see the first settlement (it isn't marked in Google Earth, sorry) that is it.

Funthal/Fonthal - from this website: http://listserv.nodak.edu/cgi-bin/wa.ex ... =&S=&P=425

""Funthal" is FONTAL, either Gross- or Klein-. These villages are located a
short distance north of Kotowsk [Kotovs'k] aka Birsula [Birzula] in the
Odessa Oblast. On today's Ukrainian maps they would be shown phonetically[not in Cyrillic] as Mal. Fontan or Vel. Fontan"

Strange, because Birzula is quite north in Ukraine, while Malyy Fontan I found south of Odessa in most other websites. Even photographs of the beach there! So type in "Malyy Fontan, Ukraine" in Google Earth, but you can't really see anything of it... but at least you know where it is. "Velikiy Fontan, Ukraine" is north of Birzula however, so I guess the villages are separated somehow. But then again, Google Earth might be wrong...

Interesting fact: Anna Akhamatova was born in Bolshoy Fontan!!! (bolshoy = velikiy I am guessing)

Anyway, I managed to do all this with no special knowledge about the Ukraine, I just used the internet!
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Yeah - double posting does stink....I didn't catch it as a double post until you mentioned it!