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Sigh. So what exactly did they invent? The way trousers (pants for you Rightpondians) are made and look like? Nonsense. Denim? Of course not. Blue denim? Doubt it. And I prefer black denim anyway.

Really, the only thing I can think of is rivets.

and another version of history;
http://www.levistrauss.com/about/history/denim.htm

Thank you for that link, JB. The deeper we go into the history of anything the more nuances we see and the more we realize how inaccurate any simplification would be and it’s only natural. And probably the reason Levi Strauss is often credited as the inventor is because his jeans were the closest to what we have today.

And? That account says:

1. Denim is not an American invention.
2. Jeans (the fabric) is not an American invention.
3. Denim garment, apparently including trousers (pants), is not an American invention.
4. Riveted pockets are an American invention.
5. The popularity of denim garment is originally an American phenomenon.

Of these, only item #5 is of relevance for JB's statement. But it only justifies using the word "invention" in its archaic sense, not in the sense "creation".

Originally Posted by TiaraNEug

Originally Posted by JB

In 1873 Levi Strauss invented blue jeans in California.

She said blue jeans-which is correct. VM, you can look it up anywhere you want. Almost any document will say the same thing. So there are a million little hackers going around changing history becauuuuse....they have nothing better to do? Mmm. I don't think so. You've got to give Americans a little more credit. For such an old man, you are not very wise. Personally, I don't think you have any idea how ignorant you sound. All you are doing is coming up with ridiculous excuses why you are right and taking us all back to the days of elementary school. Honestly, someone your age really ought to grow up.

One carefully positioned propaganda site is enough to make people re-write their history books.

It looks like this discussion is spiralling towards yet another offtopic, therefore I'm leaving it.

P.S. How dare you call me old. I'm not old, in fact I look much younger than most of my American friends. Actually, you're talking to an expert in chercher la femme here, son.

If saying that you are old is all someone has to say to get you to leave....

BTW-you are not old, and I am a guy....right.