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  1. March 21st, 2006, 03:03 AM #21
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    Quote Originally Posted by love.angel
    Do people just make these diminutives up? Or is there some structure that they all follow?
    They are usually made up with suffixes or endings, added either to the full name or to another diminutive:

    /-ка/ Танька, Петька (but it's childish and a bit rude)
    /-еньк, -оньк/ Оленька, Алешенька, Лизонька,
    /-ечк, -очк/ Васечка, Вовочка
    /-ха/ Леха (Алексей), Антоха (Антон), Ксюха (unceremoniously)

    Often used these endings (but I don't see a system here):
    /-ша, -жа/ Антоша, Ксюша, Олежа, Сережа, Маша, Паша (Павел)
    /-ня/ Сеня (Семен), Таня (Татьяна)

    When you see consonant+"я" it's always a diminutive form, IMHO.
    Коля, Саня, Оля, Таня, Вася, Петя, Федя, etc.
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  2. March 21st, 2006, 03:55 AM #22
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    Thank you gRomoZeka, that was very helpful.

    Quote Originally Posted by adoc
    Never, and I mean under no circumstances, say Лизуха to a woman.
    Why not?
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    Quote Originally Posted by love.angel
    Thank you gRomoZeka, that was very helpful.

    Quote Originally Posted by adoc
    Never, and I mean under no circumstances, say Лизуха to a woman.
    Why not?
    Something to do with being a transvestite?
    Заранее благодарю всех за исправление ошибок в моём русском.
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  4. March 21st, 2006, 05:17 AM #24
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    Quote Originally Posted by love.angel
    Thank you gRomoZeka, that was very helpful.

    Quote Originally Posted by adoc
    Never, and I mean under no circumstances, say Лизуха to a woman.
    Why not?
    because it's roughly
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  5. March 21st, 2006, 08:47 AM #25
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dimitri
    Quote Originally Posted by love.angel
    Thank you gRomoZeka, that was very helpful.

    Quote Originally Posted by adoc
    Never, and I mean under no circumstances, say Лизуха to a woman.
    Why not?
    because it's roughly
    It might be a name for a cow, not for a woman.
    Семь бед, один Reset
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  6. March 21st, 2006, 09:53 AM #26
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    Quote Originally Posted by wanja
    Quote Originally Posted by Dimitri
    Quote Originally Posted by love.angel
    Thank you gRomoZeka, that was very helpful.

    Quote Originally Posted by adoc
    Never, and I mean under no circumstances, say Лизуха to a woman.
    Why not?
    because it's roughly
    It might be a name for a cow, not for a woman.
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  7. March 21st, 2006, 09:58 AM #27
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    It might be a name for a cow, not for a woman.
    Ты не можешь сказать мне пример чего-то похожее в английском языке?
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  8. March 21st, 2006, 10:08 AM #28
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    Quote Originally Posted by basurero
    It might be a name for a cow, not for a woman.
    Ты не можешь сказать мне пример чего-то похожего в английском языке?
    Всмысле? Имя для коровы на английском? :))
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  9. March 21st, 2006, 10:16 AM #29
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    Хы хы, нет..... есть какое-то слово, которое похоже в значении на имя "Лизуха" в английском языке? Как звать женщину для того, чтобы она реагировала тем же самым образом?

    Спасибо за исправления! Я пытаюсь писать больше на русском языке!!!
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  10. March 21st, 2006, 10:19 AM #30
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    Quote Originally Posted by basurero
    Хы хы, нет..... есть какое-то слово, которое похоже в значении на имя "Лизуха" в английском языке? Как звать женщину для того, чтобы она реагировала тем же самым образом?

    Спасибо за исправления! Я пытаюсь писать больше на русском языке!!!
    Это хорошо!


    Ну это вряд-ли.. в английском же нету уменьшительно-ласкательных и прочих форм от одного имени?

    Например - Николай => Коля, Колька, Колян, Коляныч, Коленька и т.д. ?
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  11. March 21st, 2006, 10:26 AM #31
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    Ну, я не знаю, соответствует ли это русскому языку, но иногда возможно сокращать имена.

    Nicholas - Nick, Nicky
    Katherine - Kathy, Kate, Kat

    Само собой, что не столько же вариантов, как в русском языке...
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  12. March 21st, 2006, 10:28 AM #32
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    Я не думаю, что так же в русском есть много форм имен - которые будут звучать грубо, как ЛИЗУХА. Мне пока ничего в голову больше не приходит.

    Катюха, Настюха, например - это нормально.. по-деревенски так..
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  13. March 21st, 2006, 11:25 AM #33
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    Quote Originally Posted by Barmaley
    Something to do with being a transvestite?
    Something like that. Imagine yourself in a room wth a bunch of guys and a person with a thick Russian accent telling everybody that cock is a rooster, being gay means being merry and tossed salad is a vegans' culinary achievement (no children present?). You get the picture. The word Лизуха reads as "female licker". I've never heard it before but surely I cant stop laughing.
    I've got a TV, and I'm not afraid to use it
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  14. March 21st, 2006, 04:13 PM #34
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    Quote Originally Posted by adoc
    Quote Originally Posted by Barmaley
    Something to do with being a transvestite?
    Something like that. Imagine yourself in a room wth a bunch of guys and a person with a thick Russian accent telling everybody that cock is a rooster, being gay means being merry and tossed salad is a vegans' culinary achievement (no children present?). You get the picture. The word Лизуха reads as "female licker". I've never heard it before but surely I cant stop laughing.
    Hehe. I'll be sure to add that to my "words to start a fight to the death" list...
    Заранее благодарю всех за исправление ошибок в моём русском.
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  15. March 21st, 2006, 04:38 PM #35
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dimitri
    Quote Originally Posted by love.angel
    And none so far for Oleg. Is that all?
    Olezha, Olezhen'ka, Olezhka - it's not enough?
    А Олежик или что-то в этом роде не бывает? Думаю, что это когда-то слышала...
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  16. March 21st, 2006, 06:24 PM #36
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    [quote=синичка]
    Quote Originally Posted by Dimitri
    Quote Originally Posted by "love.angel":wh6v1q3p
    And none so far for Oleg. Is that all?
    Olezha, Olezhen'ka, Olezhka - it's not enough?
    А Олежик или что-то в этом роде не бывает? Думаю, что это когда-то слышала...[/quote:wh6v1q3p]

    да, Олежек тоже бывает.. - слышится как [Олежык]
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dimitri
    Вета - вообще такого не знаю
    А я знаю
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  18. June 6th, 2006, 04:49 PM #38
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    Re: Short forms

    Quote Originally Posted by love.angel
    What is a short-form for Lisa and Oleg/Alex?
    Alex is Alexander or Aleksey?


    Alexander (French: Alexandre) male name
    Александр
    Саня
    Санька
    Санечка
    Алексашка
    Сашка
    Саша
    Сашенька
    Сашечка
    Сашурик
    Шурик
    Шура
    Шурка


    Aleksey
    Алексей
    Лексей
    Лёша
    Лёшка
    Лёшенька
    Лёшечка



    Quote Originally Posted by love.angel
    I have been called Лисок (excuse my spelling), which I heard means something along the lines of "forest". ??
    A little forest - лесок.
    Лизок или Лисок can associated with a little foх.
    Лис, m - a fox
    Лиса, f - a fox
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  19. June 6th, 2006, 06:28 PM #39
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    Re: Short forms

    Quote Originally Posted by Wowik
    Alexander (French: Alexandre) male name
    Александр
    Саня
    Санька
    Санечка
    Алексашка
    Сашка
    Саша
    Сашенька
    Сашечка
    Сашурик
    Шурик
    Шура
    Шурка

    Санёк
    Сашок
    Алик


    Aleksey
    Алексей
    Лексей
    Лёша
    Лёшка
    Лёшенька
    Лёшечка

    Лёха
    Алёшенька
    Алёшечка

    По-моему, "Лексей", хотя такой вариант и есть, все-таки не говорят.
    In Russian, all nationalities and their corresponding languages start with a lower-case letter.
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  20. June 7th, 2006, 09:56 AM #40
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    Re: Short forms

    Quote Originally Posted by Оля
    Quote Originally Posted by Wowik
    Alexander (French: Alexandre) male name
    Александр
    Саня
    Санька
    Санечка
    Алексашка
    Сашка
    Саша
    Сашенька
    Сашечка
    Сашурик
    Шурик
    Шура
    Шурка

    Санёк
    Сашок
    Алик


    Санёчек
    Сашочек
    Сашулька


    Aleksey
    Алексей
    Лексей
    Лёша
    Лёшка
    Лёшенька
    Лёшечка

    Лёха
    Алёшенька
    Алёшечка


    Алексий


    По-моему, "Лексей", хотя такой вариант и есть, все-таки не говорят.
    "Лексей" - говорят, но звучит несколько просторечно или устаревше. По-деревенски.
    Даже "Ляксей" говорят.

    Ну и "Лёлик"
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