Thread: My names

Originally Posted by Barmaley

Consider a scenario in which a person in what was then the Louisiana territory in the US would have been named de la Francais, but adopted de la Francia in order to be more "localized" (in this case, to appeal to the Spanish speaking Mexican authorities in Texas). He didn't adopt Frank/Frankman/Frankwhatever. Again, maybe I'm completely off base, but that was just a theory...

This seems quite plausible.

Originally Posted by Pejko

There is another problem in SLovakia, but I am not sure if anybody cares about it....

In our language we say: Anna Kournikovova... I think in Russian it is: Anna Kournikova
...

Wow! That's strange. Why add another -ova when it already has this ending?

There is another problem in SLovakia, but I am not sure if anybody cares about it....

Hey! I am very interested

Originally Posted by gRomoZeka

Originally Posted by Pejko

There is another problem in SLovakia, but I am not sure if anybody cares about it....

In our language we say: Anna Kournikovova... I think in Russian it is: Anna Kournikova
...

Wow! That's strange. Why add another -ova when it already has this ending?

I do not know why....

Originally Posted by Pejko

Originally Posted by gRomoZeka

Originally Posted by Pejko

There is another problem in SLovakia, but I am not sure if anybody cares about it....

In our language we say: Anna Kournikovova... I think in Russian it is: Anna Kournikova
...

Wow! That's strange. Why add another -ova when it already has this ending?

I do not know why....

Maybe to show it's foreign?

Originally Posted by TATY

Maybe to show it's foreign?

Maybe. There is a saying that every Slovak one is nacionalist so better to know who is not from our tribe

Now realy. This translation (Kournikovova) was the most often repeted mistake in our medias. The right one is Kournikova, because it already contains -ova. I want only to make you smiling.

So, keep smiling :

It did make me smiling.

You, smiling maker, you.

Originally Posted by TATY

It did make me smiling.

You, smiling maker, you.

Ohhhhhhhhhhh, thank you. An now, look at me, I am going to try to stop smiling...wait a minute at this position!

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...
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... and they lived happily ever after...

Originally Posted by ivanushki

mother's family were from Kyiv.

Ukranian: Київ - Kyiv [Kyjiv]
Russian: Киeв - Kiev [Kijev]

Polish (and Chech, Slovak) women's surnames endings are generated by rules similar to generating feminine gender of possessives.

Women's surname should answer the question "Whose?" ("Чья?")
Czyja jest pani?
Чья это жена (женщина)?
Whose wife (woman) is this?

* If surname in masculine gender has no ending (it looks like has ending on consonant)
in feminine gender it add ending -owa (-ova)

pan Novak
pani Novakova

pan Orzeszek
Eliza Orzeszkowa


* If surname in masculine gender has ending on vowel, for example
-ski
in feminine gender it changes the ending
-ska

pan Kozlowski
pani Kozlowska


In Russian corresponding endings are -ский/-ская.
So surnames adopted from Polish before the end of XX century always have -ский/-ская. At present time it is possible to use both -ский/-ская
and -ски/-ска (in official documents)
Wojciech Jaruzelski
Войцех Ярузельский
Войцех Ярузельски

In Lithuanian the corresponding ending for -ski is -skis
Polish: Kozlowski
Lithuanian: Kozlovskis
Russian: Козловский

What is feminine gender for Kozlovskis in Lithuanian?

So in Polish(Chech/Slovak)
if Mr. Kurnik
then Mrs. Kurnikowa

if Mr. Kurnikow - (not possible in these language?)
then Mrs. Kurnikovowa

It seems here masculine gender of surname answer to the question
Who? not Whose?

pan Orzeszek (Who is the man? He is a nutlet. [Or hi is like a nutlet.])
pani Orzeszkowa (Whose wife is the woman? She is Mr. Nutlet's wife)

In Ukranian we often see here Vokativ case. (Hey! Nutlet!)
пан Ожешко (Орешко)
пани Ожешко

In Russian there is no more Vokativ case. (It coincide with Nominative case)
г-н Орешек
г-жа Орешек

But if we set question Whose?. Answers are
г-н Орешков
г-жа Орешкова