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    Tutoring vs Self-Study

    I'm new to this forum and just interested about other's people expirience in learning Russian. Mostly you discussing about free sources, site's and so on. I feel kind of advanced in Russian after a year of studying with my tutor and I have no idea who you guys and gals can handle with all these grammar things on your own. Yes, tutor's service isn't cheap but the result makes me feel happy and I'm not sorry about the money I've spent. Moreover, lessons with a tutor bring regularity to the process and I don't let myself loose Initially, I thought I could make with a self-study and I have enough of native Russian-speaker here in Romania but soon I realised how poor and unstructured my knowledge was.
    In other words, my question is: do you choose self-studying only becase of the money issue or not?

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    Re: Tutoring vs Self-Study

    Well, in the USA, finding a decent tutor is not easy irrespective of cost, which starts around $20/hr and goes up from there. There are a number of former teachers around, but they don't necessarily know how to teach Russian as a foreign language.

    College courses are available, but they are expensive. IMO, they aren't worth the time and money unless you need the degree.

    I've tried both self-study courses, and study with a human teacher in Ukraine, and I made SO much more progress with a teacher. Maybe I just got lucky and had an unusually good teacher (no kidding, she was a rock star), but the methods she used were the same ones that all the other teachers used as well, and which had been part of the curriculum for decades.
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    Re: Tutoring vs Self-Study

    I forgot to say I have my lessons online. It's much more convinient than make it 'live'. You can re-schedule a session any time you want and no spending of time and money for the transport.

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    Re: Tutoring vs Self-Study

    For me it a question of both money and time. I can read all I want for very little money. I have more Russian books now than I will read in the next several years. I also have very little consistent time in my schedule when I could work with a tutor.

    I know the result is that I am learning Russian very slowly, but I am not in a hurry.

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    Re: Tutoring vs Self-Study

    i always favored self study. as long as you take an even and multifaceted approach you can get great results. most people cant self motivate tho so sometimes a tutor is the better option.
    try different approaches and see what works for you
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    Re: Tutoring vs Self-Study

    I always prefer to teach myself languages, primarily because I don't have the time and money to have someone teach me. For Russian, I've got my grammar book, dictionary, this forum, Russian tunes on my iPod, and penpals I can talk to via Skype. Works for me.
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    Re: Tutoring vs Self-Study

    1. i can't imagine learning russian without a tutor. by "learning" i mean really learning the language, being able to read, speak, listen, on a proficient level.
    2. tutors, like most things, can vary widely. i worked with several tutors and interviewed many many more before i found someone who is helping me progress at the rate i want. I've also found that learning Russian from someone who speaks my native language (english) is much better than learning from a native russian speaker. they;ve been better able to understand the pitfalls in learning the language and there is also zero communication issues with explaining difficult grammar topics.
    Пожалуйста, исправляйте мои ошибки.

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    Re: Tutoring vs Self-Study

    It's my luck that my tutor can speak Romanian, though he's the native Russian. It helps a lot, I agree. But he's proficient in English and most of his other students have no problem that he doesn't speak their mother tongue. (Deleted.L.).

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    Re: Tutoring vs Self-Study

    I have a relatively unstructured way of learning a language. I don't work with a tutor, I try to teach myself using grammar books and dictionaries, but I have little use for workbooks. I find myself unable to memorize rules or declension tables etc., this approach is quite useless to me. I try to learn the language by using it; I am in correspondence with a couple of Russian-speaking friends, and I am in contact with some native speakers where I live, too. They are all acquaintances or even friends first, not tutors.

    I am trying to replicate the way a child would learn the language, mostly by trial and error, which I only supplement with my knowledge of grammatical theory and linguistics.

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    Re: Tutoring vs Self-Study

    I think it all depends on where you come from. For Eastern European people it's a whole lot easier to start studying on your own. They have less trouble with the Phonetic part of Russian and the vocubulary can be very similar at times. For me, coming from the Netherlands it would have been impossible to learn the language on my own. Simply coz the Russian language uses a completely different system and logic. I've been studying Russian in Moscow for more than 4 months now. I have improved incredibly fast and I'm surely not a beginner anymore. But I can't call myself advanced yet. Intermediate I guess. I'm lucky with a lot of Russian friends who can practice with. At the moment I can speak Russian with them, tho I still use English quite often.

    After these 4-5 months I know all the main grammatics and with it will be very easy to improve my Russian fast. The main problems I encounter with Russian, is the Phonetics. Not for me to pronounce things, but to understand people. It often happened to me that people spoke to me and I didn't understand. Then a friend of mine told me I should have understood coz she used only words I already knew. This can be very frustrating. Other than that, I keep on going. With Russian you have to be patient.

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    Re: Tutoring vs Self-Study

    Quote Originally Posted by Scholes
    I think it all depends on where you come from. For Eastern European people it's a whole lot easier to start studying on your own. They have less trouble with the Phonetic part of Russian and the vocubulary can be very similar at times. For me, coming from the Netherlands it would have been impossible to learn the language on my own. Simply coz the Russian language uses a completely different system and logic. I've been studying Russian in Moscow for more than 4 months now. I have improved incredibly fast and I'm surely not a beginner anymore. But I can't call myself advanced yet. Intermediate I guess. I'm lucky with a lot of Russian friends who can practice with. At the moment I can speak Russian with them, tho I still use English quite often.

    After these 4-5 months I know all the main grammatics and with it will be very easy to improve my Russian fast. The main problems I encounter with Russian, is the Phonetics. Not for me to pronounce things, but to understand people. It often happened to me that people spoke to me and I didn't understand. Then a friend of mine told me I should have understood coz she used only words I already knew. This can be very frustrating. Other than that, I keep on going. With Russian you have to be patient.
    I understand what you mean completely but next time use English please, OK?

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    Re: Tutoring vs Self-Study

    Uhm am I missing something?

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    Re: Tutoring vs Self-Study

    Quote Originally Posted by Scholes
    Uhm am I missing something?
    You and me both.
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    Re: Tutoring vs Self-Study

    Quote Originally Posted by Matroskin Kot
    Well, in the USA, finding a decent tutor is not easy irrespective of cost, which starts around $20/hr and goes up from there. There are a number of former teachers around, but they don't necessarily know how to teach Russian as a foreign language.

    College courses are available, but they are expensive. IMO, they aren't worth the time and money unless you need the degree.

    I've tried both self-study courses, and study with a human teacher in Ukraine, and I made SO much more progress with a teacher. Maybe I just got lucky and had an unusually good teacher (no kidding, she was a rock star), but the methods she used were the same ones that all the other teachers used as well, and which had been part of the curriculum for decades.
    Did you study with your teacher in Ukraine or did you study with her via internet?

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