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    Russian keyboard online?

    Hi. Is there a russian keyboard online that anyone knows of? I want to be able to write russian, but at work I cannot change the language to russian as i need it for work! If there was an online one where everything I type in a box is russian then its a simple copy and paste job.

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    My new website is http://www.computer-tutorials.org/New_site/

    If anyone could help with translations or audio recording please email me!

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    Thanks - another helpful resource. It's bookmarked!

    Andy
    My new website is http://www.computer-tutorials.org/New_site/

    If anyone could help with translations or audio recording please email me!

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    I ran across the Yandex.com thing too, I don't know how well it works...
    I found it via an ICQ "friend"
    I use Alta vista bablefish
    (do a search)
    I'm easily amused late at night...

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    Russian for Gringos.

    http://www.public.asu.edu/~deliving/kbd/index.htm

    It allows you to switch keyboard encoding using a shift/control key combo.

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    1) The newest and the most handy at the moment Virtual Russian Keyboard is here (works under Opera, Mozilla/Firefox, Internet Explorer):

    .............................. http://Kbd.WinRus.com

    (or directly to the Russian-interface page - http://porusski.net)

    It's the best nowadays not because the author me - is very smart, not at all - it's because I first (before starting to write the code) carefully looked at probably all existing Virtual Keyboards (saw at least 20!) to avoid deficiencies and non-handy things I saw in them.

    If you are curious what those non-handy things were:

    a) Very old ones provided only mouse-based input which was VERY bad - in Russian-speaking forums around the globe people complained that it's too tedious, good only to type one-two words but not to participate in a discussion or to write an e-mail.

    More modern Virtual Keyboards offer BOTH ways of input - by mouse and via regular physical keyboard.

    But even modern Keyboards (made in 2001-2002) have 'bad', non-handy features and deficiencies, for example:


    b) Yandex Keyboard and its several serious disadvantages - http://WinRus.com/yandex.htm (only in Russian, sorry!)

    c) Russian Keyboard - side-mode (not a main one) on translit.ru and its several serious disadvantages - http://WinRus.com/trans_kl.htm (only in Russian, sorry!)


    d) Russian-speaking people in Israel and some other countries complained that all Virtual Keyboards assume that the system keyboard of that computer is in "English, USA" mode while they often find themselves in a different situation when say system keyboard is in "Fr" mode and one can not switch it.
    I added needed functionality -
    for both Standard and Phonetic (asking people what is the layout they prefer as Phonetic) layouts -
    for Spanish, Italian, German, French, Swedish, Hebrew, and British - see explanation here:

    http://WinRus.com/scrdoc_e.htm#nonUS

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    Quote Originally Posted by chaika
    Russian for Gringos.
    No, it's not what was asked - the question was about keyboard to be used in such places as Internet-cafe or library, that is, NO download of .zip and/or installation of anything is available.

    Note. On the person's own computer it's easy to tune-up system keyboard tools to either standard Russian layout or (modifiable) phonetic (homophonic) where A-A,K-K,O-O, T-T,...
    See "How to type in Russian" section on http://WinRus.com

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    if you can add russian language support to your windows and

    execute accessories->accessibility->on screen keyboard.

    you can write with cyril alphabet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NeveRtheDon
    if you can add russian language support to your windows and

    execute accessories->accessibility->on screen keyboard.

    you can write with cyril alphabet.
    Sorry but that Keyboard is useless for most people and also we talked about different issues (see the message preceding yours):

    1) Virtual Keyboards are used (in 99% cases) in the cituations where one can not use NORMAL keyboard:

    - Internet-cafe in London with Windows
    - Linux or Mac computer in a university library or lab

    That is, when it is NOT possible to activate regular keyboard tools via Control Panel.

    While the Virtual Keyboard you wrote about requires that the activation of regular keyboard tools via Control Panel is already done -
    one MUST have already "RU" option in taskbar to use Virtual Keyboard you wrote about!
    So it can NOT be used in Internet-cafe or library/lab.

    2) Thus there are only few real life cases when that Keyboard can be useful -
    as message preceding yours described, most people find VERY tedious and unhandy to input by MOUSE and because in the situation you described there are regular keyboard tools already active so one can type normally, using regular keyboard, very few people would decide to use Mouse-based input...

    That Virtual Keyboard could serve as a reference (picture) to see where the letters are but it takes too much space on screen so most people just print the picture onto a piece of paper and look there instead of calling that Virtual Keyboard.

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    Please see the message preceding yours - it contains complete information about Virtual Keyboards


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    Hi Andrew
    i hope this site would help you
    http://www.ilike2learn.com/ilike2lea.../keyboard.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raed
    Hi Andrew
    i hope this site would help you
    http://www.ilike2learn.com/ilike2lea.../keyboard.html
    No, his question was about a different thing - he already knows Russian, he needs to input Russian texts, but can not activate system keyboard tools, so he was looking fro a Virtual Keyboard that lets him type Russian texts using regular non-Russian keyboard. Like this one (see my 1st message abive):
    http://Kbd.WinRus.com/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Platinum
    http://www.translit.ru/#
    theres one thing i find kinda wierd about that thing...

    if you type in ja you get я

    if you type in jo you get ё

    if you type in ju you get ю

    but why...

    if you type in je you get э?
    and if you type in e you get е?

    shouldn't it be...

    if you type in je you get e
    and
    if you type in e you get э?
    Иисус жил того, чтобы любить вас, а умер, чтобы спасти вас.

    wo yao nan peng you.

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    That site has even more problems - and serious ones -
    not because its author made any mistakes but because the approach itself is BAD -
    "quessing what a combinations of latin letters means in a person's text" is a way to nowhere!

    It's why, even following the Rules of "correct combinations" one has troubles with words like

    "vyuchil" - "guessing" is often wrong there - taking "yu" as a letter
    or "major" - "jo" is guessed as one letter

    The largest problem with such "guessing" sites is the absense of consistency (and author of transli.ru lists all such cases):

    - in some words 'j' can be used for 'й' - for example, 'Pojti"
    - in other workds - can NOT - for example, 'jod' or 'major'
    - etc.

    So a person has to think, "Is this that kind of a word or another kind of the word?" instead of just typing her/his text!

    It's why NEW tools are made differently - NO "combinations" and thus no guessing and no inconsistency!
    Same latin letter always produces same Russian letter, in each and every word!

    This approach is really known for a long time - it's how regular system keyboard works for Russian! "1:1" correspondence, no inconsistency!

    So the only thing was left to do is to change the LAYOUT of that system keyboard - instead of a Standard one prepare "transliterated" one - where A-A, O-O, K-K, E-E, B-Б,D-Д,F-Ф,... -
    but still with "1:1" (one button produces one Russian letter) -

    people (not me) invented Phonetic (homophonic) keyboard layout!

    Now one can type using such layout not just on her/his own computer using system keyboard (which is decribed here: http://Phon.WinRus.com - take a look how "1:1" achieved)
    but also on the some one else's computer -

    it is MUCH more logical, being say in the Internet-cafe in London, type
    the same way as at home with SYSTEM keyboard, than to go to sites like translit.ru and use those ugly and problematic "combinations" -

    new on-line, Virtual Keyboard simulates "system input, 1:1" -
    offering BOTH Standard and Phonetic layouts!

    That is, now more people could type in such Internet-cafe EXACTLY as at home - can choose THE SAME layout - standard or phonetic - they use At Home -

    what is the point to type differently at home and outside of home?


    That new Virtual Keyboard is one mentioned in the message that preceeds yours -
    http://WinRus.com/screen.htm

    but it's kind of hard to recall such long address while sitting in some Internet cafe, so I decided to pay annula fee for the domain that lets me to give people short address of the same page:

    *************** http://porusski.net.net




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    I move there from google, "russian keyboard online". It is not the first result and annoying to do every time, but I don't have a good website memory

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