Thread: double c

Привет всем!

Как произносятся слова как “ссылка”?

are the two c pronounced seperately or just one c sound?

thanks

Originally Posted by basurero

Привет всем!

Как произносятся слова как “ссылка”?

are the two c pronounced seperately or just one c sound?

thanks

I am not sure if it is a proper explanation, but I think all you have to do is to make your с sound appx. 2 times longer.... In fact, I think I would have a hard time if someone asked me to distinguish by ear сылка from ссылка.

Looks like the proper explanation to me.

MikeM, I attached a file, you can try.

How about жж and вв in beginning of a word? are these pronounced longer?

It sounds like two в, not like a long one.
Eg: ведение and введение.

Originally Posted by net surfer

Looks like the proper explanation to me.

MikeM, I attached a file, you can try.

Yeah, I can hear it, but I think it is a minor thing and I would normally get what the word is from the context...

Thanks everybody, so it's just like a drawn out c, like a double H.

Might it be possible to do a recording of BB?

Thnaks a lot

Originally Posted by MikeM

Yeah, I can hear it, but I think it is a minor thing and I would normally get what the word is from the context...

Since there's no word сылка, you can't be wrong :)

Originally Posted by basurero

Might it be possible to do a recording of BB?

Why not

Bolshoye spasibo

The difference in the first pair of words is slight to me, i can hardly make it out but i get the second one.

Originally Posted by jz12

How about жж and вв in beginning of a word? are these pronounced longer?

Traditionally, жж was a palatised (soft) ж. Although I'm not sure if people actually say a soft ж not.

But as for the other doubles consonants. If you are talking at normal speed the difference between a single and double consonant is virtually indistinguishable.

doesn't sound to me like netsurfer is a native speaker of Russian from the pronunciation.

Originally Posted by chaika

doesn't sound to me like netsurfer is a native speaker of Russian from the pronunciation.

Сдавайся, net surfer, тебя раскололи!

chaika
He doesn't have even a slightest accent

Hehe
chaika, who do I sound like then?
Indra, never! :)

Originally Posted by chaika

doesn't sound to me like netsurfer is a native speaker of Russian from the pronunciation.

That's understandable, I often have similar feelings listening to my own recordings of that kind (and of the other native speakers too). I'd say they often sound not very natural and rather robotic. I think it's because these are not the things you usually say in natural conversations, because here you just use separate words/word combinations without any context, that often makes it sound weird, imho.

Bollocks, net surfer's accent is perfectly native.

VendingMachine - maybe so, but it sounds like he is trying to add an extra syllable between the V's or something, or do something with his mouth other than make a consonant longer.

Every linguistic text on Russian I have read says a double S or double anything is just the consonant held a little longer, usually indicated phonemically as for example, /vv'

Oh, that's what you meant. Well, it's probably because I recorded single words as Friendy said. I made another recording where I put those words in sentences.

What is "сухой закон"? "Dry law"?

В России собираются ввести сухой закон.
Russia is planning to introduce a dry law.

Good question. Сухой закон is the situation when the government bans alcohol. Thus, alcohol beverages are not freely available.