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    Technical terms for ш and щ

    I'm reading a book at the moment which includes some stuff on phonetics. This leads me to ask for some clarification on the subject of ш vs. щ. Which categories do they fall into? I know that they are both fricatives and both unvoiced (?) but what about the place of articulation?
    "Музыка, всюду музыка.
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    Все, что можно уже нарушено."
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    According to the place of articulation ш and щ belong to prepalatals, and, yes, they're unvoiced consonants.



    Hope the table will be helpful. I'm not pretty much sure of the terminology used in it because it's in some ways different from what I'm used to. Maybe it's too old or just uses the terms of some other linguistic school.
    «И всё, что сейчас происходит внутре — тоже является частью вселенной».

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    It says there that there are no back-palate consonants in Russian. But I have noticed that many people pronounce "х" as a back-palate one, very much retracted, almost like that grating sound in the Caucasian languages.
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    Ты прости, сестра моя, Югославия...
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    [х] is back-palatal according to the table.
    «И всё, что сейчас происходит внутре — тоже является частью вселенной».

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rtyom
    [х] is back-palatal according to the table.
    Oops! Yes. I wasn't looking right. So, the [x]-sound is 'officially' so.
    За ночь под свинцовым градом,
    За то, что меня нет рядом,
    Ты прости, сестра моя, Югославия...
    (Лена Катина, будущая "татушка", 1999 г.)

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