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    I wanted to know whether Russians are sometimes impeded by frequent, everyday words that have many syllables.
    I don't think that anybody has problems with it, I don't. For a native speaker it's a natural way to say things. The only everyday words that are shortened regularly are "здравствуйте" and "сейчас" - even if they are only three and two syllables respectively.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mudrets View Post
    My question was not whether Russian words are long, nor did I intend to belittle the Russian language or its speakers. I wanted to know whether Russians are sometimes impeded by frequent, everyday words that have many syllables.
    It's worth remembering that unstressed syllables in Russian are invariably significantly reduced. ( i think I read somewhere that the typical length of an unstressed syllable is 1/3.5 of a stressed syllable, as opposed to a maximum average ratio of 1:2.5 in English) This is why unstressed я,и,е and а,о,ы all sound the same respectively. So most syllables in long words are skimmed, or in some cases virtually swallowed completely.

    Take for example the name of the footballer Билялетдинов.

    Russian commentators pronouce this like:
    билили - ДИнов -> бьльль -ДИнов -> бьль -ДИнов
    with the t almost always being omitted/swallowed.

    Their English counterparts or the other hand conscientiously enunciate and differentiate every last letter - бил-я-'лет-ди-нов.

    So although most words aren't technically shortened, it seems like native speakers can still get them out pretty quickly.

    Итак, кроме того, чтобы подсчитывать буквы, по-моему интересно было бы еще вынуть секундомеры или, может, вымеривать как много двигается язык и т.п.

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    Нет, т не пропускается. В данном случае после т маленькая запинка/заминка/остановка: т_д .

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SlRWlfYtquA

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    Нет, т не пропускается. В данном случае после т маленькая запинка/заминка/остановка: т_д.
    Да ну?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lampada View Post
    Нет, т не пропускается. В данном случае после т маленькая запинка/заминка/остановка: т_д
    Ещё пример произнесения тд в слове отделка: YouTube - Декоративная отделка стен
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