Thread: how do you pronounce Идиот

Идиот

What do you need it for?

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Sorry, that's not on the theme.
[i:di:’ot] maybe

i need it because it is the title of a novel i like. "The idiot", by fedor dostoevsky

what the hell is wrong with you?

Originally Posted by brighton

i need it because it is the title of a novel i like. "The idiot", by fedor dostoevsky

what the hell is wrong with you?

It was not such a big deal that you had to fly off the handle. I thought that you wanted to insult somebody.

It's pronounced: E - D - ought. The stress is on the "ought".

No offence but was not [i:di:’ot] enough?

Originally Posted by alexB

No offence but was not [i:di:’ot] enough?

Most likely not. It is a fact that a lot of English speakers do not understand IPA-based transcrition systems. I think that most British people should understand IPA-based transcription, since it is widely used by British dictionaries and is most likely taught in schools. In the USA, however, most dictionaries use their own phonetic systems, totally unrelated to IPA.

We have no idea about where brighton is from, therefore, we cannot assume he'll understand your transcription.

I don't think Brits are any more likely to know IPA than Americans. It's certainly not taught in schools.

Originally Posted by scotcher

I don't think Brits are any more likely to know IPA than Americans. It's certainly not taught in schools.

I see.

Originally Posted by alexB

[i:di:’ot] maybe

I'd rater write it [ɪdʲɪ 'ot]
there is no tense i's.

Most likely not. It is a fact that a lot of English speakers do not understand IPA-based transcrition systems.

But what if transcription system they do understand are weird and/or incapable of conducting sounds of Russian because it was not designed for it?
( weird e.g. "ä like o in 'pot' http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pronunciat ... or_English . It's simple - a with dots as o, right ? )

ok thank you very much to all of you and lampada i'm really sorry for what i said, i take it back. So it's kind of similar to what we say here: idiot, idiought... blah

thanks again

Originally Posted by brighton

ok thank you very much to all of you and lampada i'm really sorry for what i said, i take it back. So it's kind of similar to what we say here: idiot, idiought... blah

thanks again

Just making sure you realized that the stress is on the last syllable in Russian.
It's on the first syllable in English.

Originally Posted by brighton

ok thank you very much to all of you and lampada i'm really sorry for what i said, i take it back. So it's kind of similar to what we say here: idiot, idiought... blah

thanks again

Forgiven, and yes, I should've been more polite and at least say "if you do not mind me asking".

Роман Фёдора Достоевского "Идиот" : http://sayandpost.com/1rc2t80vx2.mp3

sounds to me like eedyote w/ stress on dyote (rhymes w/ wrote).

How the does the pronunciation of идёт differ from идиот?

Originally Posted by Кишлук

How the does the pronunciation of идёт differ from идиот?

compare:
Идиот: ee-dee-ought
Идёт: ee-d'yot

The second и is very fleeting, but pronounced, followed by a heavy stress on the "o".

Originally Posted by Yazeed

The second и is very fleeting, but pronounced, followed by a heavy stress on the "o".

I'd say there is no any "second и" for Russian native speakers here; there are just a soft 'д' and an 'o' after it.

Originally Posted by Оля

Originally Posted by Yazeed

The second и is very fleeting, but pronounced, followed by a heavy stress on the "o".

I'd say there is no any "second и" for Russian native speakers here; there are just a soft 'д' and an 'o' after it.

I said it was fleeting (произносится быстро). Я вот могу расслышать вторую "и", и при этом я не русский но, правда, ударение находится на "о", причем оно сильное ударение.

Так получается ид-и-ОТ, и вот в том-то и разница между "идиот" и "идёт",