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    Certainly not to bad at all. God knows I started out worse.

    ть - https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%D1%8...%D0%B9#Russian
    ы - difficult sound. Be sure to pronounce it as one sound not a sequence of multiple close approximations (you didn't particularly do this but some people do)
    hard to criticize pronunciation of в портленде because it's a US city name; it almost can't sound Russian; just be sure to treat the в as part of the word following it -- "впортленде", and вгости

    "во мгле"

    your ж specifically seems to be coming out as a ʑ instead of ʐ. This means that you're probably using about 20% of the way back from the tip of your tongue to touch the roof, making it sound slightly palatalized (soft). Ж uses the very tip of the tongue, curled up and back and meeting (basically) perpendicular at a 45 degree angle to the center of the alveolar ridge.
    ж is voiced ш, but NOT a voiced щ.
    Wiki page for ж
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voiced_retroflex_sibilant
    word жар
    https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%D0%B...%D1%80#Russian

    your к in купил is properly UNaspirated (sharp sounding)

    только is a bit of a tough word for non natives for sure, not only do you need to make an ль sound, but you also need to squeeze it in before the к.
    https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%D1%8...8C%D0%BA%D0%BE
    Notice the colloquial pronunciations drop it for ease

    Reeeaaallly shoving those vowels into their appropriate corners helps a lot towards sounding native (especially stressed о's, since that particular sound is very un-English) You do this well in single syllable words

    your 'х' is definitely better than it could be, some people seem to only be able to make a harsh gurgle sound, but yours is at least a soft hiss, however I think I hear it being a single unit too far back in the mouth. Yours is bordering on uvular, whereas х is a sound pronounced right where к touches down-- on the velum. Pronouncing хххк хк ххххк shouldn't move the tongue forward or back at all - just close and open slightly

    позже is actually a pretty weird word. It is one of the uncommon examples of -зж- which can be pronounced ʑ (voiced щ)
    https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%D0%B...B7%D0%B6%D0%B5 - note the two varying pronunciations

    I don't know how in the hell you pulled off нравится so well, do you already have experience with rolled r's?

    https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%D0%BA%D0%BE%D1%84%D0%B5
    кофе is a good example of two of the vowels that are very pushed into their respective spots. o and е are physically higher up in the mouth than the anomalous English equivalents.

    ть in пригласить его was pretty good

    unstressed vowels are pretty difficult to learn, pretty much takes a lot of hearing them, and unfortunately, didactic material tends to use a faux pronunciation that essentially stresses every syllable, even though nobody actually speaks that way; but as long as you're exposed to many different speech sources that'll just come with time
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    Some spelling errors - all do to Vowel Reduction
    очень приятнa ; this would refer to a feminine noun, приятно is the neutral "it is nice" because it's in the neuter.

    приехать

    when using "so" as in: "..., as a logical conclusion of that: "---- generally use ',так что' or потому or поэтому
    так is reserved for... "in the manner"

    так что - Перевод на английский - примеры русский | Reverso Context

    до свИдания
    "В тёмные времена хорошо видно светлых людей."
    - A quote, that only exists in Russian. Erich Maria Remarque

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    Oh, I missed позже.
    сш, зж, сз and so on are always subjected to regressive assimilation:
    с жаром - /'ж:арəм/
    с шаром - /'ш:арəм/
    расширить - /рə'ш:ирить/

    Quote Originally Posted by xXHoax View Post
    your 'х' is definitely better than it could be, some people seem to only be able to make a harsh gurgle sound, but yours is at least a soft hiss, however I think I hear it being a single unit too far back in the mouth. Yours is bordering on uvular, whereas х is a sound pronounced right where к touches down-- on the velum. Pronouncing хххк хк ххххк shouldn't move the tongue forward or back at all - just close and open slightly
    It sounds almost native in уехать, IMO.

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