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    Alessya

    Hi everyone,

    Okay, the name Alessya should be pronounced like “al-es-sya”, right? I’ve been trying to say this correctly for six weeks now, but the feedback from the Alessya in question is not good!

    Do I have a special problem or is it difficult for most beginners with English as native tongue to say “sya” correctly?! I can say “s” and “ya” separately (obviously), but as soon as I try to say “sya” fluently I introduce an extra unwanted sound like “si-ya

    I can say “shya”, but “sya” feels completely unnatural; and the more I try the more stilted it becomes. I can also say “al-es-ya”, but she definitely seems to want two “s” sounds in there.

    Maybe this isn’t a question as such. Just wanted to see if it’s a known difficulty for beginners... or maybe someone has a tip for getting it right that will save me.

    Thanks,

    Simon

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    Re: Alessya

    Quote Originally Posted by becksie
    Hi everyone,

    Okay, the name Alessya should be pronounced like “al-es-sya”, right?
    No. It's pronounced a-le-s'a. "S" with an apostrophe is a "soft" (a.k.a palatalized) "s". There is no "y", nor "i", between "s" and "a".

    Quote Originally Posted by becksie
    I can say “shya”, but “sya” feels completely unnatural; and the more I try the more stilted it becomes. I can also say “al-es-ya”, but she definitely seems to want two “s” sounds in there.
    That is rather strange. There is the single "s" there.

    Quote Originally Posted by becksie
    Maybe this isn’t a question as such. Just wanted to see if it’s a known difficulty for beginners...
    Yes, it's a common difficulty for all English-speakers, because there are no distinction between "hard" and "soft" consonants in English.

    Quote Originally Posted by becksie
    or maybe someone has a tip for getting it right that will save me.
    Живёт в белорусском полесье кудесница леса Алеся...
    Налево пойдёшь - коня потеряешь, направо пойдёшь - сам голову сложишь.
    Прямой путь не предлагать!

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    Re: Alessya

    Thanks for the detailed help. And for the video: brilliant!... I will listen to it repeatedly until the pronunciation is imprinted onto my brain.

    Cheers.

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    Re: Alessya

    No. It's pronounced a-le-s'a. "S" with an apostrophe is a "soft" (a.k.a palatalized) "s". There is no "y", nor "i", between "s" and "a".
    To be MORE exact it is pronounced [s'ä], where ä means a little bit more forward vowel than the ordinary [a] after hard consonants.
    I think every time there's a discussion about soft consonants a lot is being said about the quality of the soft consonants, and nothin is said about the quality of the vowels after them, but it is important in order to pronounce correctly all the combination. Native Russian speakers are not aware of this (except those with philiogical knowledge) because this is not a so called "phonematic distinction", [ä] being only a positional variant of general "a". (And so with ü and ö)

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    Re: Alessya

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NaqTQTmFkWo


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