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    я is silent at the end of the word русская?

    Is the я silent at the end of the word русская? To me it sounds very much like roo-skuh, with no ya sound at the end whatsoever.
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    Re: я is silent at the end of the word русская?

    The Я can't be silent at all.
    Just your hearing is not fine-tuned enough yet to hear it for sure.
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    Re: я is silent at the end of the word русская?

    Quote Originally Posted by SoftPretzel
    with no ya sound at the end whatsoever.
    The "й" sound is stuck between to "а" sounds and the whole thing is pronounced as a long "а" with a slight hitch in the middle of it. The "й" (the hitch) is articulated nowhere near as clearly as, for example, at the beginning of the word "яблоко" and I readily believe that it can be unrecognizable for an untrained ear. Also, I suspect that in careless speech it ("й", not "а") may disappear completely.

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    Re: я is silent at the end of the word русская?

    Он же писал: на конце.
    На конце я произносится без призвука Й. Но ни в коем случае не обрезается и не глушится. Потому как могут быть проблемы с распознаванием, например если заглушить Я в слове мантия, мы не сможем определить падеж (мантии, манию и т.п.). Значит сам язык не даст заглушить конечную безударную Я.
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    Re: я is silent at the end of the word русская?

    thanks for the information. Could everyone please listen to the speakers and let me know if you think they are pronouncing it correctly:

    the audio file is here and can be listened to from within the browser:
    http://drop.io/iamrussian

    If they are pronouncing the sound, it must be very slight.
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    Re: я is silent at the end of the word русская?

    The Я is here in every case. It sounds slurred a bit, but it's definitely here.
    It's just your hearing.

    It's slurred because of the stress. As you know, the farther the sound off the stressed syllable, the more it is slurred. The Я is far enough.
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    Re: я is silent at the end of the word русская?

    This is what the last "-кая" in the recording looks like.


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    Re: я is silent at the end of the word русская?

    Quote Originally Posted by SoftPretzel
    thanks for the information. Could everyone please listen to the speakers and let me know if you think they are pronouncing it correctly:

    the audio file is here and can be listened to from within the browser:
    http://drop.io/iamrussian

    If they are pronouncing the sound, it must be very slight.
    Well. They say it very fast, i mean they tell it not like teacher. It look like normal chat. So, about words - They say the words correctly.

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    Re: я is silent at the end of the word русская?

    Quote Originally Posted by Spiritfan
    Quote Originally Posted by SoftPretzel
    thanks for the information. Could everyone please listen to the speakers and let me know if you think they are pronouncing it correctly:

    the audio file is here and can be listened to from within the browser:
    http://drop.io/iamrussian

    If they are pronouncing the sound, it must be very slight.
    Well. They say it very fast, i mean they tell it not like teacher. It look like normal chat. So, about words - They say the words correctly.

    I try to make a rec. for you - Take it.
    thank you very much, Spiritfan. That was very kind of you to do that, and it was indeed helpful.
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    Re: я is silent at the end of the word русская?

    Any time. If you need somethink else, i make rec. for you with big pleasure.
    I apologize for my English. Do not scold me - help me improve my language

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    Re: я is silent at the end of the word русская?

    Quote Originally Posted by Eugene-p
    The Я is here in every case. It sounds slurred a bit, but it's definitely here.
    It's just your hearing.

    It's slurred because of the stress. As you know, the farther the sound is off the stressed syllable, the more it is slurred. The Я is far enough.
    You need to use "further" here. In general, further expresses abstract distance while farther expresses literal distance.

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    Re: я is silent at the end of the word русская?

    Quote Originally Posted by Spiritfan
    i make rec. for you with big pleasure.
    thank you! I appreciate that!

    While I understood what you said, it is more likely we would say something like:

    "It would be a great pleasure to make a recording for you."

    OR

    "It would be my pleasure to make more recordings for you."
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    Re: я is silent at the end of the word русская?

    Quote Originally Posted by Spiritfan
    Any time. If you need somethink else, i make rec. for you with big pleasure.
    Also, it should be 'somethinG' else, with the letter 'g' at the end. Everything else is good though!
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    Re: я is silent at the end of the word русская?

    I try to remember.
    Thank you.
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