Thread: Политические дискуссии на разные темы (оф-топик от темы "The crisis in Syria")

Originally Posted by Hanna

Yeah, this is what I've been on about in the Politics forum. There was a talk about this back in the 1990s when a US general essentially listed all the countries and regimes the US was going to take down.
This is on video and anyone can view it on Youtube. (guess it was before they got savvy about new media..)

And it's followed the script almost precisely. Some people believe in Jewish conspiracies and what not. This is a conspiracy that is essentially right there, and the world's super power is working to it diligently for a decade and a half. They are easily 80% through the list.

The whole world is criss-crossed by a network of American military, air and naval bases. All in the name of "freedom" and "democracy". It's double speak if ever there was any. Ask the Iraqis how happy they are with their freedom, or the Libyans. That was never what it was about. They don't care at all about the Syrians either, and besides, they didn't even have it that bad. No price in destruction, refugee crisis, chaos and human suffering seems to be too high.

China can't/won't stop the USA as long as it doesn't actually target China itself. Russia can't and doesn't want to do anything since it almost ruined itself trying to keep the USA in check, and eventually lost the game anyway. It's a real tragedy.

When other bully states are discussed in a historical light you can usually find some nice things to say about it; like the Romans built roads and kept the peace; the Greek spread the love for knowledge and critical thinking; the Moslem empire in the middle age valued science and maths.

But the USA.... What will its empire be famous for? I don't think hamburgers and expensive lattes will go down to posterity! Or perhaps it'll just go down as the short-lived empire that spread the values of junk culture, depleted morals, radical capitalism and the pursuit of money and corporate profits at any cost.

I think you are right with a great deal of that.

China is just being patient, that's all. I don't think anyone 'won' the Cold War if you assess the aftermath. The U.S. is just taking a longer time to collapse. They also spent to excess on military. They are not 17 trillion dollars in debt by accident. It is funny to read about McCain here and the rants from Deb, though. I agree with some of it but the idea that those politicians (on TV) have any real power is somewhat comical. So, am I the only one here who thinks they're puppets? I notice that few Russians participate in this topic. Are most not interested or maybe they just don't want to participate with the 'regulars' who are posting in this section?

Btw, the ones that really control things are just watching as fools like McCain talk tough and try to influence the public to panic and draw support. I rarely watch these MSM news networks but they are all the same and owned by dubious corporations and controlled by shady individuals. Does anyone really think that these individuals in the public eye have any more power or control than these special interest groups? I laughed after watching one particular program in which Newt Gingerich called Putin a 'Russian nationalist.' That provoked a good snicker. Most of these politicians are either a) uninformed; b) spreading false info and distorting facts or c) outright lying and on many occasions, all three. This doesn't mean that the 'other sides' are innocent. The best rule of thumb, imho, is to hold all Governments and their main parties suspect and as untrustworthy. But, when the USA is eager to attack and control other countries, one has to keep a particular eye on what goes on there. Imho.

Originally Posted by 14Russian

... I notice that few Russians participate in this topic. Are most not interested or maybe they just don't want to participate with the 'regulars' who are posting in this section? ...

Maybe Hanna, Deb and you speak for them the way that they do not have anything to argue about, only to agree?