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    Quote Originally Posted by Sgt. Cold View Post
    [...]the problem of Islamists who want to spread their ideology to the West.
    Well, the ideology wars are not something specific to Islam, I think. The West is trying rather hard to spread their ideology to the East (and is presently more successful). Also, there's something out there which is called the Confucius Institute which is sponsored by the Chinese government and is promoting the Chinese culture and ideology worldwide. So, what's so exclusively awful about "spreading the ideology?"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crocodile View Post
    So, what's so exclusively awful about "spreading the ideology?"
    Would you agree that spreading the ideology of Charles Manson is a mistake? How about we spread the good news of Mein Kampf and the Nazi ideology too?
    Можно сказать, что человек который написал Mein kampf сумасшедший. Человек который написал Коран даже хуже!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sgt. Cold View Post
    Would you agree that spreading the ideology of Charles Manson is a mistake? How about we spread the good news of Mein Kampf and the Nazi ideology too?
    Let me be honest, I'm against the ideology of Charles Manson and Adolf Hitler. Primarily because my own ideology is different. I'm pretty sure a typical Muslim would say the Western ideology is no better than Mein Kampf. However, there is a universal rule of "to spread or not to spread" - the MEANS. There are the legitimate means and the illegitimate means. Adolf Hitler had legitimately won in his country. Had Jews been allowed to leave Germany and settle somewhere else, the tragedy as we know it would never have happened.

    So, if you ask me whether Muslims can try spreading Islam, I would say I'm not against it (not that I want to accept it). But that should be double-sided and Muslims should not be against me spreading my ideology to them (not that they would want to accept it too). The only condition - the means should be legitimate. The modern Islamic terrorist practice of killing innocent civilians as well as the recent US warfare in Yugoslavia, Afghanistan, and Iraq in order to "restore/establish the democracy" are both the illegitimate means of spreading the ideology.

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    Можно сказать, что человек который написал Mein kampf сумасшедший. Человек который написал Коран даже хуже!
    Да, я вполне готов с тобой согласиться. Однако, не мне тебе объяснять, что в любой достаточно объёмной книге (тем более на философские темы, как Коран) можно найти всё, что хочешь, ибо жизнь сама по себе полна противоречий. Поэтому, на сегодняшний день личность автора Корана не имеет практического значения. Намного важнее личность современных исламских религиозных деятелей, ибо они и определяют лицо ислама.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sgt. Cold View Post
    Можно сказать, что человек который написал Mein kampf сумасшедший. Человек который написал Коран даже хуже!
    Можно подумать, библия написана по-другому.
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