Thread: What can be done to prevent terrorism?

Originally Posted by Ramil

Behind all this I see a thorough policy of alienation of Caucasus from the rest of Russia as a part of even greater strategy. Well, I could live with it if only this policy was not a policy of our own government. I'm afraid that Russian territory will shrink to barely fit the Central-Russian plain within the next 20-30 years. Caucasus will separate, the Far-Eastern territories and a part of Siberia will be slowly assimilated by the Chinese and there will be several independent republics to the east from the Volga river.

Gosh, maybe... ! Based on the events of the 20th century: When it comes to Russia, nothing is impossible! Is it as "empty" in the Eastern part of Russia as it looks on the map? There are a few large cities in Eastern Russia, aren't there? I thought it was (or at least had been) a conscious strategy in Russia to try to populate the Eastern part of the country.

But if it really is very empty, then I guess it isn't inconcievable that China might be glancing in that direction since they have too many people in their country...They've been really shrewd in how they gone about ensuring their own energy supplies for example. So maybe they'll start looking at getting more "lebensraum"....If there is unused agricultural land, then someone will want it.

But if Chinese people move into Russia, isn't it more feasible that they become Russians (by nationality and language) rather than the borders changing and the land becoming Chinese?

Anyway, I wouldn't panic about the extinction of Russia just yet... Russian is the biggest native language on the European continent!

PS - As for Caucasus; It wouldn't surprise me if many Russians think that whole area is more trouble than it is worth. That may be true from an national economic perspective as well. I don't fully understand the situation; I have understood that Chechnya is increasingly "Islamized" by Kadirov, with the good knowledge of Moscow, and that most of the problems are now coming from Dagestan.

Originally Posted by Demonic_Duck

The phrase that springs to mind is: "don't hate the player, hate the game".
Another thing I have to disagree with. By this logic, as long as there are more slave owners than slaves, slavery is perfectly acceptable (as the majority prefer it). Yes, laws should be made for the good of the governed, but not to the extent where the "greater good" steamrollers over the rights of a minority.

Well, they are Russian citizens with a secular education and the same rights as anyone else in the RF, right? So if they do not enjoy the lifestyle in the Caucasus, they can move elsewhere in Russia and assimilate. Many women DO like Islamic life though. It's very narrow minded to call all Moslem women "slaves". Plenty of Moslem women in Europe keep up the Islamic lifestyle completely of their free will and are perfectly competent to make an educated choice about how they prefer to live.

The women in the Caucasus can choose a traditional lifestyle or a modern lifestyle elesewhere in Russia, depending on their preference. Why would you call them oppressed? Probably, their biggest problems have to do with personal finances, not with how to deal with their culture/religion.

Originally Posted by Hanna

The women in the Caucasus can choose a traditional lifestyle or a modern lifestyle elesewhere in Russia, depending on their preference. Why would you call them oppressed? Probably, their biggest problems have to do with personal finances, not with how to deal with their culture/religion.

You seem to be a fine example of why women shouldn't vote! You live in a dream. Muslims in the Caucasus are getting shot with paintball guns by Muslim police for not wearing Muslim clothing.
Caucasus: Police shoot paintballs at unveiled women, dowries tripled as Sharia becomes ever more entrenched - Jihad Watch


At least a dozen places selling alcohol in the North Caucasus were attacked with grenades, bombs and gunfire over the last year as armed Islamists bent on installing sharia law have stepped up their battle against those who fancy a tipple.

Last week saw the latest fatal attack in the town of Khasavyurt in Dagestan, near the border with Chechnya, where a bomb ripped through an alcohol-serving cafe, killing four.
slamist rebels later said in a statement that "the owners were repeatedly warned but they were arrogant."

"It is only a matter of time before places involved in the filth of alcohol... will meet their destruction," they said on the insurgency-affiliated website jamaatshariat.com .

Attacks last year were almost double of those in 2009, officials say.

Originally Posted by Sgt. Cold

You seem to be a fine example of why women shouldn't vote!

Oh dear. Can't be bothered to comment, to be honest.

Originally Posted by Sgt. Cold

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2010/07/chechnya-police-shoot-paintballs-at-unveiled-women-dowries-tripled-as-sharia-becomes-ever-more-entre.html]Caucasus: Police shoot paintballs at unveiled women, dowries tripled as Sharia becomes ever more entrenched - Jihad Watch[/url]

A totally unbiased American hosted site about Islam, telling the full truth, sans progaganda and absolutely no underlying agenda. Great. I change my mind right away..... NOT!

Originally Posted by Hanna

Oh dear. Can't be bothered to comment, to be honest.


A totally unbiased American hosted site about Islam, telling the full truth, sans progaganda and absolutely no underlying agenda. Great. I change my mind right away..... NOT!

Absolutely absurd! I don't know why I waste time with people like you. And you can vote! pathetic.
Let me ask you this then, toots. Where would YOU go to get information about the real agenda of a certain group? Would you go to to a Nazi group and ask them if they were immoral and racists? If you did, would you end your quest for the truth after talking to them or would you go and seek somewhere else.... perhaps you would go to a "biased" anti-Nazi group. Oh no! Apparently you would not do that..."because they don't like Nazis." "They're biased"!
You are a real basket case...but perhaps you make a nice chocolate cake.

Originally Posted by Hanna

Well, they are Russian citizens with a secular education and the same rights as anyone else in the RF, right? So if they do not enjoy the lifestyle in the Caucasus, they can move elsewhere in Russia and assimilate. Many women DO like Islamic life though. It's very narrow minded to call all Moslem women "slaves". Plenty of Moslem women in Europe keep up the Islamic lifestyle completely of their free will and are perfectly competent to make an educated choice about how they prefer to live.

I wasn't calling Muslim women "slaves" at all, I was just pointing out a flaw in your logic.

Originally Posted by Demonic_Duck

I wasn't calling Muslim women "slaves" at all, I was just pointing out a flaw in your logic.

Ok, no worries !