Thread: Questions about Ukrainian Politics and the Orange Revolution

Thanks for the interesting responses. I think it would be great for Ukraine if it could become a sort of Europe-to-Russia gateway country in terms of trade, travel and culture.

I plan to travel through Ukraine, north to South in the spring (April or May). Maybe Gromozeka or it-ogo will have time to meet up for a cup of coffee. I think the first town I'll visit might be Odessa (arriving by train or coach... still working this out....)

Odessa has a sort of "glamorous" association in my mind, but I don't know where I am getting that from... Is it famous for anything particularly glamorous now, during the Soviet period or even before the revolution?

Who has been there? Is it nice? What are some nice and interesting things to do there? Is it mainly Russian speaking or not?

Odessa is a Russian-speaking city and definitely worth visiting, but "glamorous"? I wouldn't say so.

Originally Posted by Hanna

I plan to travel through Ukraine, north to South in the spring (April or May). Maybe Gromozeka or it-ogo will have time to meet up for a cup of coffee. I think the first town I'll visit might be Odessa (arriving by train or coach... still working this out....)

Odessa has a sort of "glamorous" association in my mind, but I don't know where I am getting that from... Is it famous for anything particularly glamorous now, during the Soviet period or even before the revolution?

Who has been there? Is it nice? What are some nice and interesting things to do there? Is it mainly Russian speaking or not?

I don't think I'll be on your way.

Odessa has a very specific reputation. It was a "capital of humor" in the USSR, odessites are believed to have a very special paradoxal state of mind. They have a reputation of being cunning and successfull in trickery. There are plenty of odessian anecdotes often with Yiddish accent. Odessa is the most cosmoploitic and multinational city with its own cultural ambitions. It is hardly glamurous though. There are traditions of criminal romantics remained from the old times.

Originally Posted by Basil77

I think almost the same. And according to my expirience it-ogo pulled the statement about "Russians often have sentiments about "Great Eurasian Nation" right out from his a$s (sorry, it-ogo).

Зато не в бровь. Как сказал бы Рамиль "Баттхерт детектед".

Originally Posted by it-ogo

Как сказал бы Рамиль [...]

Да, безусловно Рамиль - кладезь мудрости и выпуклых образов. Я тоже частенько его цитирую.

Вообще-то: "баттхёрт детектед" - это старый добрый способ вести специальную олимпиаду. Раньше он назывался "у тебя, что, комплекс на эту тему?" А нОнешная мОлодежь переложила, вот, на иноземный лад. Типа, так оно понятнее будет.

А т.н. "имперские амбиции" (ТМ) ... у кого их нет? Крым-то ведь тоже не исконно-посконно украинская территория. Отчего же бедных крымчан неволить рiдной мовой? На чужой горбок не насмеюся, на свой горбок не нагляжуся. Но, это так, к слову. Ведь и на Дальнем востоке, и на Урале славяне появились относительно недавно. Вот когда устроит какой-нибудь Фронт Освобождения Бурятии пару-тройку терактов, придётся об этом вспомнить. Нда.

Originally Posted by Crocodile

Да, безусловно Рамиль - кладезь мудрости и выпуклых образов. Я тоже частенько его цитирую.

Ну вы уж вообще... того. К тому же, я по-моему, ни разу не употреблял слова баттхёрт, к тому же в сочетании с б-гомерским словом "детектед".

Originally Posted by Ramil

Не в русской же транслитерации )))

Миссис Хадсон, вы ещё и придирчивы. Чем Вам наша православная кириллица не угодила для спеллинга?