View Poll Results: What will happen during 2014 and after that?

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  • Eastern Ukraine will continue to be governed from Kiev after UA military has restored order

    3 15.00%
  • Eastern Ukraine will manage to achieve autonomous status within Ukraine.

    1 5.00%
  • Ukraine will become a federal republic with more freedom for Eatern Ukraine

    3 15.00%
  • Eastern Ukraine will declare independence and become a new country or "breakaway republic"

    3 15.00%
  • Eastern Ukranie will be annexed to Russia following a military intervention by Russia

    2 10.00%
  • The area will descend into chaos, civil unrest and/or civil war for a long time to come

    8 40.00%
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Thread: Future of Eastern Ukraine? / Будущее Восточной Украины?

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    Завсегдатай it-ogo's Avatar
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    I can't agree with some of your formulations, in particular 2 and 4. It implies that now "Eastern Ukraine" has its own will and ability to implement it. In fact it is now an "area in chaos": people are disoriented and terrorized by Russian diversants destroying the infrastructure and arming and organizing local poorest people and criminals into gangs and directing that gangs with no purpose apart pure destruction.

    In my opinion options of 2 and 3 can become available only after achieving option 1. The population most probably would support option 1 if asked (60%) or 2 which is mainly the same. Actual support from population of option 4 is close to 0 but it is possible as a result of massive Russian military invasion. Option 5 has some support (about 20% but unstable) though I don't believe that Putin is crazy enough for that. He is not going to take responsibility for those people, he just decieve them through Russian press to use as tools.
    "Россия для русских" - это неправильно. Остальные-то чем лучше?

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    Quote Originally Posted by it-ogo View Post
    I can't agree with some of your formulations, in particular 2 and 4. It implies that now "Eastern Ukraine" has its own will and ability to implement it. In fact it is now an "area in chaos": people are disoriented and terrorized by Russian diversants destroying the infrastructure and arming and organizing local poorest people and criminals into gangs and directing that gangs with no purpose apart pure destruction.

    In my opinion options of 2 and 3 can become available only after achieving option 1. The population most probably would support option 1 if asked (60%) or 2 which is mainly the same. Actual support from population of option 4 is close to 0 but it is possible as a result of massive Russian military invasion. Option 5 has some support (about 20% but unstable) though I don't believe that Putin is crazy enough for that. He is not going to take responsibility for those people, he just decieve them through Russian press to use as tools.
    Cheers, ok I'll re-phrase the options if you suggest better wording. I didn't give it too much thought, just put down all possible outcomes that occurred to me.

    So the last option is - if you believe it will continue like today indefinitely, or get even worse, i.e. every town is occupied and the UA army on the war path against the protesters etc.
    I guess that is that nobody can or wants to do anything to solve the situation. I.e. Kiev can't and Russia won't.


    I guess it's a real blessing that there are no moslems living there, else you'd have the jihad brigade arriving too.....

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