As far as most people in Western Europe and the USA know (after reading the papers or watching the news), the rebels shot down the plane with a "BUK" missil launcher provided by Russia. Further proof of this theory is that a senior rebel was overheard talking on the phone about how they accidentally shot down the plane, and that it was Ukraine's fault for not stopping commercial traffic over Donbass.

Media in lots of European countries didn't only blame the separatists, but Russia as a country, and Putin as an individual, very strongly and quite ridiculously - what on earth would Russia or Putin gain from this?!

Nothing was said about whether it would have been a mistake, but I think all realise that nobody in this conflict would have shot down a passenger plane on purpose. Whoever did it simply made a mistake.

On the other hand, the rebels said from the beginning that the UA airforce downed the plane, believing it was a Russian recognaissance plane.
Now, a nameless witness came forward and named somebody called Vladislav Voloshin as the captain of a fighter plane that supposedly shot down MH17. The witness passed a lie detector test and there is a captain Voloshin in the UA airforce.

The Dutch investigators came up with nothing useful so far - unbelievable. Nothing from the black box, nothing from analysing the pieces of the plane. I find that absolutely astonishing. Frankly beginning to wonder if their is foul play - maybe it was just too convenient to blame the rebels and Russia. A bit more embarrassing if the very Ukrainian government that the Netherlands itself, as part of the EU helped put in place in Ukraine, shot down the plane. That's apparently what relatives of the victims in the Netherlands are beginning to suspect. Anyone more than me beginning to wonder how objective and truthful this investigation plans to be.... Reminds me of the Estonia ferry disaster in 1994 - where my own government was very obviously not wanting the truth to come out, and acted downright bizarre.

Someone somewhere, whether rebel or Ukrainian army knows what happens and I wonder if they can sleep at night. They should do the decent thing and come clean!



Meanwhile as seen on "Newsteam RT" the posessions of the passengers of MH17 are still scattered across fields in Eastern Ukraine

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