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    Quote Originally Posted by rockzmom View Post
    ***It's not that we are stupid...***
    This is why no one wants Mr. Snowden.
    Yes, it is. You just demostrated evidence of it, thank you. So, you are saying Americans are justified in the attitude, 'everyone knows there's spying so it's okay or we can accept/tolerate it.' LOL! Well, that is a new perspective I haven't seen too often so congratulations. That's a stupid attitude. I never said Snowden is a hero. One can debate that but he tried to give details on how *pervasive' and serious it is with details. Instead of people just 'assuming' they're being spied on, he brought the subject into the public eye more than before. He sacrificed his safety and livelihood to 'tell people' and hopefully, wake them up. Unfortunately, he didn't realize how many stupid and oblivious people there are. Even when they're smacked on the head with the revelations, people not only overlook it but call him a 'traitor.' LOL! Unreal.
    Edit: Also, Snowden showed that the American Government has violated the Constitution among other things and no one with a rational mind would consider his 'contract' allowing that.
    Snowden is 'not being accepted' (as you put it) by other countries because they are in bed with the U.S. Government and the U.S. has intimidated other countries to not grant him the request.
    I'm not surprised the mod liked your comment. It's typical of this site whenever the topic is politics.
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    Russian 14... you are the one who doesn't seem to understand that:

    1. Anyone with a FaceBook account or using any sort of Android product has already given up on their privacy long ago. We sold our souls to the devils on those technologies and they know more about us than our own families do and ever will. "Here, want a great calendar App that will help organize your life and your families too?... Wonderful, now we know all of your doctors appointments, that little Suzi does tumbling, and little Jimmy plays the trombone, and you had your mammogram done last week and that two weeks from now you plan on divorcing your hubby and he doesn't know it yet."

    2. Children today know from early school age that you in order to obtain any sort of account, be it a school based IT account or a job, you must sign a Computer and Internet Use Policy Form. Once you sign that form, your emails, web movement, anything electronic at work/school is no longer private. Every key stroke and document is recorded and stored and can be reviewed at anytime without your permission.

    So, it is not a case where Mr. Snowden brought to light anything really new or different about what is already happening in our society. We are not oblivious to it. Maybe you just randomly click on TOS agreements or sign legal contacts and policies. Maybe it is you who has been oblivious to it all and that is why you are so upset over all of this?

    Oh and Russian 14... I can write this post and have a passionate debate all without resorting to name calling and maybe that is part of the reason Lampada liked my post....hmmmm?
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