Thread: Economic Sanctions against Russia and Russia’s Retaliatory Trade Measures

Originally Posted by hddscan

That's a problem
Although sanctions are supported by the EU, so Russia retaliated against the EU.
Those countries that were against the sanctions before need to put pressure on Brussels to lift the sanctions. Somebody gotta do the job.

The real problem is, Russia didn't retaliate against the EU, neither against the U.S. What they did is retaliation against their own fellow citizens. I don't think losing the Russian market for the EU & U.S. is even 1% of what losing the ability to buy quality stuff from the first world is for ordinary Russians. Once again, the Russian authorities demonstrate that they treat people just like another resource, like oil, gas, etc. Maybe that will be the last straw for the people to finally wake up though?...

Originally Posted by Eric C.

The real problem is, Russia didn't retaliate against the EU, neither against the U.S. What they did is retaliation against their own fellow citizens.

As you may notice Russians disagree with you

Originally Posted by hddscan

As you may notice Russians disagree with you

I'm hoping the opinion on that is more diverse than what we've seen so far. =))

Originally Posted by Eric C.

I'm hoping the opinion on that is more diverse than what we've seen so far. =))

Does that mean that you want Russians suffer?
That is rather strange hope, I think.

Originally Posted by hddscan

Does that mean that you want Russians suffer?
That is rather strange hope, I think.

That means, I hope there are people in Russia who don't like their rights violated, and are ready to fight for them. Consumer rights, for instance.

Originally Posted by Eric C.

The real problem is, Russia didn't retaliate against the EU, neither against the U.S. What they did is retaliation against their own fellow citizens. I don't think losing the Russian market for the EU & U.S. is even 1% of what losing the ability to buy quality stuff from the first world is for ordinary Russians. Once again, the Russian authorities demonstrate that they treat people just like another resource, like oil, gas, etc. Maybe that will be the last straw for the people to finally wake up though?...

Yes, shooting down the second Malaysian plane during a half-year time span with a 100 virologists on board at the moment of a sudden out-break of ebola virus in Guinea, on the very day when Israel began the attack at South Lebanon demonstrates that the US treat people's lives just like another resource, like oil, gas, etc, regardless of whether these are the lives of Europeans or Africans...
But it's too naive to believe that the Europeans can finally wake up and to begin to notice what is happening around them - they got obesity of brain and soul.

Originally Posted by SergeMak

Yes, shooting down the second Malaysian plane during a half-year time span with a 100 virologist on board at the moment of a sudden out-break of ebola virus in Guinea, on the very day when Israel began the attack at South Lebanon demonstrates that the US treat people's lives just like another resource, like oil, gas, etc, regardless of whether these are the lives of Europeans or Africans...
But it's too naive to believe that the Europeans can finally wake up and to begin to notice what is happening around them - they got obesity of brain and soul.

This reminds me of an old Soviet dialog:

- Я говорю, у вашей страны множество проблем, от полного внутреннего тоталитаризма, до абсолютной закрытости рынка и милитаризованности экономики.
- И что, а в Америке негров линчуют!

I'd understand if those were excuses made by public figures, to hide up the faults of their policies by switching everyone's attention to "the evil U.S."; but how's that relevant to ordinary people???

Originally Posted by SergeMak

Yes, shooting down the second Malaysian plane during a half-year time span with a 100 virologists on board at the moment of a sudden out-break of ebola virus in Guinea, on the very day when Israel began the attack at South Lebanon demonstrates that the US treat people's lives just like another resource, like oil, gas, etc, regardless of whether these are the lives of Europeans or Africans...
But it's too naive to believe that the Europeans can finally wake up and to begin to notice what is happening around them - they got obesity of brain and soul.

And on the plane, since when do the U.S. help the separatists in eastern Ukraine?