Thread: Economic Sanctions against Russia and Russia’s Retaliatory Trade Measures

The title of this thread is over dramatic. It's not a war, it's sanctions. Even the "western world" is questionable but it could pass.

Originally Posted by bytemare

The title of this thread is over dramatic. It's not a war, it's sanctions. Even the "western world" is questionable but it could pass.

Поменяла заголовок. Просьба ко всем, особенно к Антонио, предложить другие варианты, если этот как-то не устраивает.

Originally Posted by bytemare

The title of this thread is over dramatic. It's not a war, it's sanctions. Even the "western world" is questionable but it could pass.

You are wrong. It's a war. Moreover it's a war for survival. It's not a war against Putin or his government, it's the war against Russian people. The aims of the war range from provoking a forced change of the power in Russia as it was earlier made in Ukraine to disintegrating Russia into several unfriendly states leading permanent brother-killing wars against each other. The thousands of innocent victims in the South-East of Ukraine as well as the hundreds of the passengers of the Malaysian Boeing have already become the victims of this war.
On the other hand, the Ukrainian bomb is meant to undermine not only Russia, but Europe as well. So, it's very naive to hope to stay untouched by the war. The bell tolls for everyone, as I used to say earlier.
As we cannot dodge from participating in this war, we have to take the sides. For Russians there is little choice since we are cornered. We will strike back.
As for Europeans there is a choice - either to follow the US politics and to lose their political and economical sovereignty or to take their own side and ally with Russia.

Originally Posted by SergeMak

You are wrong. It's a war. Moreover it's a war for survival. It's not a war against Putin or his government, it's the war against Russian people. The aims of the war range from provoking a forced change of the power in Russia as it was earlier made in Ukraine to disintegrating Russia into several unfriendly states leading permanent brother-killing wars against each other. The thousands of innocent victims in the South-East of Ukraine as well as the hundreds of the passengers of the Malaysian Boeing have already become the victims of this war.
On the other hand, the Ukrainian bomb is meant to undermine not only Russia, but Europe as well. So, it's very naive to hope to stay untouched by the war. The bell tolls for everyone, as I used to say earlier.
As we cannot dodge from participating in this war, we have to take the sides. For Russians there is little choice since we are cornered. We will strike back.
As for Europeans there is a choice - either to follow the US politics and to lose their political and economical sovereignty or to take their own side and ally with Russia.

Видишь ли, для простых американцев и, наверное, западных европейцев твоя точка зрения на современную политику, я думаю, будет полностью неприемлема. Опять же я думаю, что они бы, если б задумались, пришли б к заключению с точностью "до наоборот" от твоего понимания политических событий. Всё-таки СМИ тут и СМИ там диаметрально противоположно всё освещают. Жаль, что Дебби нет, она бы, наверное, с твоей точкой зрения согласилась, а также мой племянник, твой тёзка, но он пока в тюрьме. Через год выйдет, постараюсь его сюда затянуть.