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    Perhaps not everyone here understands the purpose of death penalty. It's only partly a punishment, but its main purpose - to serve as an example to the others. The state exercises its ultimate power here to make a point. I'm not going to argue about whether it is productive or not, but say what you will - it IS working in some countries.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ramil View Post
    Perhaps not everyone here understands the purpose of death penalty. It's only partly a punishment, but its main purpose - to serve as an example to the others.
    There are different ways to force people to do the "right" things and not to do the "wrong" ones. First one is threatening them (with death penalties for example) while another one is taking care of their education and bringing up during the childhood. If a society keeps away of bringing up the only thing to hold people in a "herd" is threatening them but is it the best way which your children should stay along with?
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    Quote Originally Posted by CoffeeCup View Post
    There are different ways to force people to do the "right" things and not to do the "wrong" ones. First one is threatening them (with death penalties for example) while another one is taking care of their education and bringing up during the childhood.
    Yeah, call me a pessimist, but an 'intelligent ape' would not behave if you don't beat it with a stick from time to time.

    Quote Originally Posted by CoffeeCup View Post
    If a society keeps away of bringing up the only thing to hold people in a "herd" is threatening them but is it the best way which your children should stay along with?
    One day people would stop commiting crimes... oh well, one day cows will fly too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ramil View Post
    Perhaps not everyone here understands the purpose of death penalty. It's only partly a punishment, but its main purpose - to serve as an example to the others.
    Yeah - that's the reason why I was saying in another thread that it would be EFFICIENT as a deterrent for drug dealing and pushing.

    But on principle I think the actual act of killing another living person is morally wrong - for any reason.. Regardless of whether it is the state or anyone else doing the killing.

    It's a really hard question.

    Does anyone know whether the Belarussian Metro bombers can appeal etc? Or is that it?
    How to they execute people in Belarus?

    I have been taking Belarus' position in several debates here, because I think that Belarus is misrepresented in Western media. But on this one I am NOT taking their position!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hanna View Post
    Yeah - that's the reason why I was saying in another thread that it would be EFFICIENT as a deterrent for drug dealing and pushing.

    But on principle I think the actual act of killing another living person is morally wrong - for any reason..
    Why? Only because 'thou shalt not kill' thing? What's morality? A system of views commonly accepted among the society members. It can be very flexible sometimes. In some African tribes cannibalism is perfectly moral. Eutanasia is moral according to the laws of some most humane countries. Morality is an empty thing compared to necessity.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hanna View Post

    Does anyone know whether the Belarussian Metro bombers can appeal etc? Or is that it?
    How to they execute people in Belarus?

    I have been taking Belarus' position in several debates here, because I think that Belarus is misrepresented in Western media. But on this one I am NOT taking their position!
    They can appeal. And as far as I know one of them doesn't want to appeal. Western media of course says about tortures in bloody KGB. Mother of one of them also wrote a petition to the President but it was dismissed.

    We will never know why and whether they did it. But those who did it should be punished. I was happy that my sister that day was late from work. She usually went there that time.

    Israel and Interpol persons confirmed investigation. So I can believe that "bombers" were involved in the crime.

    People are executed by the pistol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dmitry Khomitchuk View Post
    They can appeal. And as far as I know one of them doesn't want to appeal. Western media of course says about tortures in bloody KGB. Mother of one of them also wrote a petition to the President but it was dismissed.

    We will never know why and whether they did it. But those who did it should be punished. I was happy that my sister that day was late from work. She usually went there that time.

    Israel and Interpol persons confirmed investigation. So I can believe that "bombers" were involved in the crime.

    People are executed by the pistol.
    Why does Israeli Shin Bet and (ex)Mossad agents need to be there?

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