Thread: Bерите в демократию? / Do you believe in Democracy?

@Seraph, it is not true for ALL Americans, of course. I think Anixx just wanted to get a point across. But quite a fair share of Americans hold this view, don't they? Republicans, "tea-party" supporters, evangelical Christians, survivalists, and many others.. They think that people should take care of themselves, pay for just about every service they want to use, and that the state should do very little apart from uphold law and order.

Several Americans participating here, have expressed this type of viewpoint.

I mean, there is the rather common view in the USA that it is a good idea for civilians to have weapons at home, partly for the reason that if the public is armed, then the state always needs to be careful, because the citizens are ready to take to arms if things develop in a way that they are not happy with...
If this is not extreme suspicion against the state, I don't know what is!

I think this viewpoint is fallacious, and that the powers to be really concerned about today, are large multinational corporations that influence nation states... Not the states themselves. I believe that modern states to a large degree are more or less tools of "the capital". (I am aware this makes me sound like a communist, I am not, really, and I never voted for the communists..) But it seems that more and more, states are becoming puppets in the hands of corporate lobbyists, financial organisations and corporations that create jobs, own land and sponsor media that support their positions.

Originally Posted by Hanna

(I am aware this makes me sound like a communist, I am not, really, and I never voted for the communists..)

i caught myself at the exact same thought once you start pondering on social justice or lack thereof you automatically get a step closer to communist ideology

@Seraph, it is not true for ALL Americans, of course. I think Anixx just wanted to get a point across. But quite a fair share of Americans hold this view, don't they? Republicans, "tea-party" supporters, evangelical Christians, survivalists, and many others.. They think that people should take care of themselves, pay for just about every service they want to use, and that the state should do very little apart from uphold law and order...

When I get a glass of water from the kitchen tap, I can drink it with out getting sick. This is a governance issue. (civic, local) I like potable water coming out of the tap. Although this is a local issue, it is connected to state issues of public health and related issues of safety. While the historical record shows several errors, lapses etc, generally the reason government has stepped into these areas is directly because of abuses that occur in the absence of government/regulation.

Perhaps people are simply unaware of useful things that government does, things in the vital interests of the populace.