Thread: Нинин брат/ брат Нины

Is these forms perfectly equal? Or should I pay attention to use them appropriate? How?

It is appropriate to say сестрин дом?
or собакина морда?

Is there forms like Нинин of nouns on consonant? Example Борис?

Yeah, they're equal.

Сестрин дом is good, but seems a bit colloquial and archaic, of course you can use it anyway.

Собакина морда is totally colloquial and should not be used in written style. It looks like it is from the lexicon of less-educated people.

Борисов брат -- Such a form was widespread among the 19th century Russian writers, Dostoevsky, for example.
And you can say so in common speech as well.

Спасибо большое! Всё ясно!

All seems clear.

Originally Posted by jz12

собакина морда?

Never heard such a thing. Sounds funny because it follows the pattern we use for people, like "витина физиономия".
But "собачья морда" is perfectly normal.
Волчья, лисья, барсучья, медвежья...

Originally Posted by E-learner

Originally Posted by jz12

собакина морда?

Never heard such a thing. Sounds funny because it follows the pattern we use for people, like "витина физиономия".
But "собачья морда" is perfectly normal.
Волчья, лисья, барсучья, медвежья...

собачья What form is that??
What about genitive? морда собаки?

Another Q:

How do you use foreign names with atypical russian ending in relationships/genitive, e.g. Judy's car, Pierre's brother?

Спасибо

if it ends in a consanant you treat it as any other masculine noun...if it ends in an "a" you treat it as any feminine noun...and if it ends in anything else. leave it alone:

Judy's car - Машина Джюдй
Pierre's brother -Брат Пиерра

Originally Posted by zomby_pengy

Pierre's brother - Пиеррин брат

No, you can't say so, it's "Брат Пьера" ("Пьеров брат" is also possible but it's either very informal or archaic)

Originally Posted by Friendy

Originally Posted by zomby_pengy

Pierre's brother - Пиеррин брат

No, you can't say so, it's "Брат Пьера" ("Пьеров брат" is also possible but it's either very informal or archaic)

Yeah, I realized that shortly after I posted it. which is why I edited it. for some reason I was thinking the name was "Пиерра", as opposed to "Пиерр"(or rather "Пьер", I suppose)

Originally Posted by jz12

собачья What form is that??

I had to consult a dictionary on this. It turned out to be an adjective.

Originally Posted by jz12

What about genitive? морда собаки?

Yes.

Originally Posted by zomby_pengy

the name was "Пиерра", as opposed to "Пиерр"(or rather "Пьер", I suppose)

Только Пьер.

[quote=Оля]

Originally Posted by "zomby_pengy":lgq1cesv

the name was "Пиерра", as opposed to "Пиерр"(or rather "Пьер", I suppose)

Только Пьер.[/quote:lgq1cesv]

yes, i realized that. :P i just wrote "Пиерр" because i didn't know how to spell it.