Thread: What form is "найдены" ?

The sentence is from a newsreport from way back, found here: http://www.russianmentor.net/Russian...efrn_06_34.htm

Потерпевший аварию на дальнем востоке авиалайнер Ту-154 был оборудован четырьмя чёрыми ящиками.
Три из них уже найдены и отправлены в Москву.

Hello everyone,

I guess it is a rather basic question but I cannot find answers in my books.

How do the forms of найдены и отправлены happen?

Why is it not нашли and отправили?



I thank you already for your help.


Kind regards,


Michael

"were discovered and sent to Moscow". It's Passive voice + Past tense.
Active and passive verbs — LearnRussian Grammar tables

You can also read here: http://www.ipages.am/files/companies...%20Grammar.pdf


" 303 Perfective reflexives with passive meaning

Perfective passives are normally expressed by a participle (see 359 and 360 (2) (ii)).
However, passives may also be expressed by perfective reflexives that denote:

(1) Covering:
Вершины покрылись снегом
The peaks became covered in snow

Note
This sentence describes an action. Compare the use of a participle to describe a state:
Вершины покрыты снегом ‘The peaks are covered in snow’.

(2) Filling:
Таз наполнился водой
The basin filled with water

(3) Illuminating:
Поля осветлись поздним солнцем
The fields were illuminated by the late sun

(4) Others, for example ‘replacing’, ‘creating’, ‘breaking’:

Её прежняя радость сменлась чувством крайнего раздражения
Her former joy yielded to a feeling of extreme irritation

Создалось сложное положение
A complex situation developed

Разбился стул
A chair got smashed

Note

Animate instrumentals are excluded from such constructions. They are possible only with a passive participle (see 359), cf.:

Кружок создался/был создан
The club was set up

Кружок был создан (but not *создался) учениками
The club was set up by the pupils "

Thank you for your responses.

But why do the two verbs above end in "ены" and not like in all the passive examples with the typical -ся variation?

Originally Posted by Micha

Thank you for your responses.

But why do the two verbs above end in "ены" and not like in all the passive examples with the typical -ся variation?

It is all sort of a weird stuff to explore (or to explain).

1. Вершины покрылись снегом
The peaks became covered in snow = Вершины покрыты снегом

2. Таз наполнился водой
The basin filled with water = Таз наполнен водой

3 Поля осветлились поздним солнцем
The fields were illuminated by the late sun = Поля осветлены поздним солнцем


4. Её прежняя радость сменилась чувством крайнего раздражения
Her former joy yielded to a feeling of extreme irritation = радость (ныне) сменена чувством раздражения

Создалось сложное положение
A complex situation developed = сложное положение создано

Разбился стул
A chair got smashed = стул разбит

and, finally...

Три из них уже найдены и отправлены в Москву. = три из них нашлись и отправились в Москву (kinda more familiar, I doubt that you can use that with inanimate things - at least, in official article).

My advice: just remember the phrase "найдены и отправлены" (smth is found and sent) - you can often hear it in news and reports.

Раскрываемость угонов продолжает оставаться невысокой — всего из угнанных за текущий год автомобилей в Москве было найдено 800 машин. (http://www.gazeta.ru/auto/2014/10/31_a_6284697.shtml)

Два человека отправлены в СИЗО и двое под домашний арест по делу о крушении самолета главы «Total» во Внуково (http://echo.msk.ru/news/1425016-echo.html)

etc etc

Okay, I do not get it at all, but I can roll with "just remember that"

Thanks!

Originally Posted by Micha

Thank you for your responses.

But why do the two verbs above end in "ены" and not like in all the passive examples with the typical -ся variation?

It's when we have the past passive particles but in a short form.

The Past Passive Participles