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    Is there an imperfective version to "проспа́ть"?

    I've encountered

    заспаться
    проспать
    просыпать

    All "perfective". I can't seem to find the imperfective form...does it exist?
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    Why do you think просыпать is perfective?

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    проспать and просыпать are the perfective/imperfective pair.
    заспаться pairs засыпаться
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    Valda, mind that "засыпАться" and "засЫпаться" are completely different verbs. You need the first one.

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    Меня на Гугле не забанили, но может кто-нибудь привести примеры с "засыпаться, засыпаюсь"?
    Заспаться ещё ладно, сойдёт как разговорное.

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    — Опять ты встала в два часа дня!
    — Ну прости, я немножко заспалась!
    — Ты и вчера заспалась, и позавчера заспалась. Нельзя каждый день так засыпаться!

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    Valda, note these three different verb pairs:

    1. просыпать/проспать -- to oversleep
    2. просыпаться/проснуться -- to wake up
    3. просыпать/просыпать -- to spill something dry and granular (salt, sand, seeds, ashes, etc.)

    With the help of Google and ru.wiktionary.org, I found some information about their etymologies:

    The first two verb pairs, relating to sleep, are Indo-European cognates with Latin words such as sopor ("sleep") and Somnus ("the god of sleep").

    The third one ("to sprinkle dry stuff"), is cognate with the -sip- in "to dissipate", which ultimately comes from the Latin verb supare, meaning бросать ("to throw").

    So, in short, you've got the bases -спать, -сыпать, -снуть that all connect with the noun сон ("sleep").

    And then you've got a totally separate base -сыпать, which refers to "dry sprinkling."

    P.S. I was a bit surprised to find out that the English word "sleep" is NOT cognate with the Russian спать or Latin sopor ! Instead, it apparently comes from an IE root that signified something closer to дряблый ("limp, wilted, flaccid").

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    Властелин Valda's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Inego View Post
    Why do you think просыпать is perfective?


    Are you saying it's a mistake, Inego? As you can see, they tagged this verb as perfective above.
    Although I did just noticed that below they tagged it correctly...

    1. просыпать/проспать -- to oversleep
    2. просыпаться/проснуться -- to wake up
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valda View Post
    Are you saying it's a mistake, Inego? As you can see, they tagged this verb as perfective above.
    Although I did just noticed that below they tagged it correctly...
    Valda, pay attention to the stress. Verbs below and above are different but the only difference is the stress. ПросЫпать and просыпАть.
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    Quote Originally Posted by it-ogo View Post
    Valda, pay attention to the stress.
    I think you should read the whole thread first. It spares our strength.

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