Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast
Results 1 to 20 of 26

Thread: Ripped off

  1. #1
    Старший оракул
    Join Date
    Mar 2005
    Location
    c:\earth\usa\minnesota
    Posts
    819
    Rep Power
    10

    Ripped off

    Can you say "моя машина была ограблена", when you are trying to say "My car was ripped off"?

    I'm trying to find a word for "steal" that is a bit more colloquial, such as "rip off".

  2. #2
    Завсегдатай
    Join Date
    May 2004
    Location
    в небе
    Posts
    2,223
    Rep Power
    13
    "ограбить" and "украсть" are not the same like "rob" and "steal". If you was in the car when it was happening, you can say "ограбили", if not - "обокрали". If you want a slang word for your sentence, you can say for instance "обчистили" (мою машину обчистили). Probably there're other words but I can think of any right now.

  3. #3
    Почётный участник
    Join Date
    Jun 2003
    Posts
    149
    Rep Power
    11

    Re: Ripped off

    Quote Originally Posted by saibot
    Can you say "моя машина была ограблена", when you are trying to say "My car was ripped off"?

    I'm trying to find a word for "steal" that is a bit more colloquial, such as "rip off".
    passives are almost always formal in Russian so моя машина была ограблена is something you'd write in an official report to the police. If you want to be colloquial say something like
    мою машину обчистили - this one's perhaps the most colloquial
    мою машину обокрали/ограбили
    These are called impresonal sentences, if I'm not mistaken, they're analogous to english sentences with they (they ripped off my car) but are much more common in russian where you don't really need a subject if you don't really know who or what it is, they look sort of like passives but are more coloquial so that
    he got beat up -> его побили
    she got mugged - ее ограбили
    she got raped - ее изнасиловали
    she got fined for speeding - ее оштрафовали за превышение скорости

    get the idea?

  4. #4
    Властелин
    Join Date
    May 2005
    Location
    french camp
    Posts
    1,234
    Rep Power
    11
    I am guessing what Saibot is trying to say is that the car itself was stolen (or not? I've heard it either way). Then

    Мою машину увели,
    у меня увели машину

    or slang

    У меня спёрли машину
    I've got a TV, and I'm not afraid to use it

  5. #5
    Почтенный гражданин
    Join Date
    May 2005
    Location
    Montreal, QC
    Posts
    479
    Rep Power
    10
    Quote Originally Posted by adoc
    I am guessing what Saibot is trying to say is that the car itself was stolen. Then

    Мою машину увели,
    у меня увели машину

    or slang

    У меня спёрли машину
    I understood it as something was stolen from the inside his car, but not the car itself. "У меня сперли/свистнули CD, зеркала, руль, переднее правое кресло и расческу из бардачка"
    Find your inner Bart!

  6. #6
    Властелин
    Join Date
    May 2005
    Location
    french camp
    Posts
    1,234
    Rep Power
    11
    Well, rip off could mean steal, not necessarily rob.
    I've got a TV, and I'm not afraid to use it

  7. #7
    Почтенный гражданин
    Join Date
    May 2005
    Location
    Montreal, QC
    Posts
    479
    Rep Power
    10
    Quote Originally Posted by adoc
    Well, rip off could mean just steal, not necessarily rob.
    But wouldn't it be "rip off from me" - "ripp off a car from me"? I know for sure, that "rip off a bank" doesn't mean "to steal a bank"
    Find your inner Bart!

  8. #8
    Властелин
    Join Date
    May 2005
    Location
    french camp
    Posts
    1,234
    Rep Power
    11
    So you insist that every word has only one meaning? A little strange coming from a writer . Let the English resolve this.
    I've got a TV, and I'm not afraid to use it

  9. #9
    Почтенный гражданин
    Join Date
    May 2005
    Location
    Montreal, QC
    Posts
    479
    Rep Power
    10
    Quote Originally Posted by adoc
    So you insist that every word has only one meaning?
    Well, "to rip off a car" means "to strip a car" - for whatever reason. Not steal, but take it to pieces. The prepositions rule! I could notice a difference between "украли у меня" and "украли меня". I would wake up!
    Find your inner Bart!

  10. #10
    Властелин
    Join Date
    May 2005
    Location
    french camp
    Posts
    1,234
    Rep Power
    11
    Off is not a preposition here, it's a part of a phrasal verb. Or do you think that "put up with something" uses two prepositions? A preposition would be: somebody ripped a sticker off my car. A preposition requires a subject, doesn't it?
    I've got a TV, and I'm not afraid to use it

  11. #11
    Почтенный гражданин
    Join Date
    May 2005
    Location
    Montreal, QC
    Posts
    479
    Rep Power
    10
    Quote Originally Posted by adoc
    Off is not a preposition here, it's a part of a phrasal verb. Or do you think that "put up with something" uses two prepositions?
    no-no, i was talking about the absent preposition. There is no prep. here.
    Find your inner Bart!

  12. #12
    Властелин
    Join Date
    May 2005
    Location
    french camp
    Posts
    1,234
    Rep Power
    11
    Anyways, I'll talk to you later. I'm gonna go.
    I've got a TV, and I'm not afraid to use it

  13. #13
    Старший оракул
    Join Date
    Mar 2005
    Location
    c:\earth\usa\minnesota
    Posts
    819
    Rep Power
    10
    Thanks! I get it now. I just was looking for a more colloquial word for "to steal". I'm tired of украсть. Sounds too formal and junk.

  14. #14
    Почтенный гражданин
    Join Date
    May 2005
    Location
    Montreal, QC
    Posts
    479
    Rep Power
    10
    Quote Originally Posted by saibot
    Thanks! I get it now. I just was looking for a more colloquial word for "to steal". I'm tired of украсть. Sounds too formal and junk.
    Now we need help!!! What was stolen - a car or something from/inside a car?
    Find your inner Bart!

  15. #15
    Завсегдатай
    Join Date
    May 2004
    Location
    в небе
    Posts
    2,223
    Rep Power
    13
    Oh, if it's about the car itself, then "Мою машину угнали".

  16. #16
    Завсегдатай kalinka_vinnie's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2004
    Location
    Sunnyvale, Cali
    Posts
    5,771
    Rep Power
    15
    Well, I never heard anyone using the term : "they ripped off the car" or "my car was ripped off". I think, you can only rip off people (swindle).
    Hei, rett norsken min og du er død.
    I am a notourriouse misspeller. Be easy on me.
    Пожалуйста! Исправляйте мои глупые ошибки (но оставьте умные)!
    Yo hablo español mejor que tú.
    Trusnse kal'rt eturule sikay!!! ))

  17. #17
    Старший оракул
    Join Date
    Mar 2004
    Location
    From Ukraine
    Posts
    818
    Rep Power
    11
    I thought the term was to 'cut off'
    Vrei să pleci dar nu ma, nu ma iei
    Nu ma, nu ma iei, nu ma, nu ma, nu ma iei
    Chipul tau si dragostea din tei
    Mi-amintesc de ochii tai

  18. #18
    Старший оракул
    Join Date
    Mar 2005
    Location
    c:\earth\usa\minnesota
    Posts
    819
    Rep Power
    10
    I don't know how we got on to a stolen car, but if you want context clues, you can translate these sentences, just so I can see what verb works best in what situation.

    My car was ripped off.

    Someone ripped off my wallet.

    She's ripping money off from you!

    Somone ripped off my CD collection from inside my car.

    I'm afraid if I leave it unattended, someone will rip it off.

  19. #19
    Завсегдатай
    Join Date
    Sep 2004
    Location
    las vegas
    Posts
    1,687
    Rep Power
    12
    Quote Originally Posted by saibot
    I don't know how we got on to a stolen car, but if you want context clues, you can translate these sentences, just so I can see what verb works best in what situation.

    My car was ripped off.

    Someone ripped off my wallet.

    She's ripping money off from you!

    Somone ripped off my CD collection from inside my car.

    I'm afraid if I leave it unattended, someone will rip it off.
    IMHO: I personally would never say "My car was ripped off". It sounds strange and it is also ambiguous.

    I would say "My car was stolen" if the entire car was taken.

    Or "Somebody broke into my car" if something inside the car was taken or the colloquial version is "My car was broken-into".

    "to rip off" = "to (intentionally) overcharge"
    "He ripped me off" = "He (intentionally) overcharged me"
    Какая разница, умереть богатым или бедным?

    Какой толк от богатства если ты не счастлив.

  20. #20
    Старший оракул
    Join Date
    Mar 2005
    Location
    c:\earth\usa\minnesota
    Posts
    819
    Rep Power
    10
    Well where I live (in Minnesota), its quite accepted to use "ripped off" anywhere you can use "stolen". I hear it all the time.

    I guess its kinda like the whole "pop" and "soda" thing...different parts of the country have different words for things. Like in Milwaukee, a drinking fountain is called a "bubbler"....

    I would use ripped off in more of a informal situation..such as when talking to a friend.

    Somone ripped my car off!

Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  


Russian Lessons                           

Russian Tests and Quizzes            

Russian Vocabulary