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    re means "пере" in Russian. In words like: "перезарядка" (reload), "перезаправка" (refuel) and so on
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    Re: re

    Only one must be careful here because the direct translation doesn't always work and пере- also has other meanings.
    Examples when it works:
    reread - перечитать/перечитывать
    rewrite - переписать/переписывать
    But if you translate "repay" as "переплачивать" it will be wrong because переплачивать means overpay.
    I have a small off-topic question too: What is the genetive plural of начинающий?
    начинающих
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    Thanks a lot for the help Friendy and ST!
    Friendy, you wrote: rewrite -переписать/переписывать, but it
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    But note that "пере-" can also have different meanings than "re-".
    1) "over-". перегрузка - overload (while перезагрузка is reload), переполнение - overflow.
    2) "trans-". перевод - translation, передача - transmission.
    3) "inter-". пересечение - intersection, перемешивание - intermixing.
    There may be other meanings too.
    (Well, the "re-" prefix can have different meanings as well).
    Genetive plural of начинающий is начинающих.

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    [quote=Kamion]Thanks a lot for the help Friendy and ST!
    Friendy, you wrote: rewrite -переписать/переписывать, but it

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    Very interesting pisces. I didn
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    Well "re-" can also mean "back" in words of Latin origin. In this context, "re-" is often translated as "от-".
    respond - отвечать
    retract - оттягивать

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    Isn't exchange (as in foreign currency)
    передать or something
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    Exchange is обмен.

    But the question is, in english, if we are using the prefix re- as the repetition of an action (rewrite, redo, reread, replay, reissuie, etc.) is always translated to the prefix пере- which means the repetition of the action (переписать, переделать, перечитать, переиграть, переиздать).

    I think yes, or is there another prefix that has the meaning to do again?
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    Quote Originally Posted by kalinka_vinnie
    Exchange is обмен.

    But the question is, in english, if we are using the prefix re- as the repetition of an action (rewrite, redo, reread, replay, reissuie, etc.) is always translated to the prefix пере- which means the repetition of the action (переписать, переделать, перечитать, переиграть, переиздать).

    I think yes, or is there another prefix that has the meaning to do again?
    That's a noun
    I am talking about the verb. To exchange.
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    The noun is... обменивать!
    Hei, rett norsken min og du er død.
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    [quote=Kamion]But even if "пере-" sometimes mean other things than "re-", can "re-" always be translated with ""пере-"? Or is it like in Friendy

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    Quote Originally Posted by ST
    re means "пере" in Russian. In words like: "перезарядка" (reload), "перезаправка" (refuel) and so on
    Refuel isn't "перезаправка". It's "дозаправка". The English prefix substitutes for many Russian ones.
    «И всё, что сейчас происходит внутре — тоже является частью вселенной».

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    The problem arises because adding a prefix to an imperfective verb makes a new perfective verb, but it usually also alters the meaning, so then how do you derive an imperfective verb from the new one?

    For example:
    писать (imp.) - написать (pf.) both = write
    писать (imp.) - дописат (pf.) write vs. finish writing.

    Я допосал диссертацию (I wish).
    I finished my dissertation - that is, writing it.
    But what if I wanted to say "I am finishing up my dissertation" when it isn't finished yet? I need an IMPERFECTIVE verb. There are various ways to create them (learn them in Russian III), but one is to modify the verb by adding the -yva- (-ыва-/-ива-) suffix.

    Я дописывал свою диссертацию.
    I was finishing/ trying to finish/ in the last stages of/ in the throes of/ struggling with my dissertation.

    Это предложение для меня довольно-таки необыкновенное, пожалуйста, носители русского языка, поправляйте!

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    Quote Originally Posted by chaika
    Я дописывал свою диссертацию.
    I was finishing/ trying to finish/ in the last stages of/ in the throes of/ struggling with my dissertation.
    Correct, you've got it. There could be alternative ways of saying this, but yours is perfectly fine. BTW, could you resolve a little confusion we have regarding "rip off"?
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    chaika, I think your tries are correct.
    «И всё, что сейчас происходит внутре — тоже является частью вселенной».

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