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    I would like to know what this sounds like to a native speaker. Does it sound like a foreigner or really weird? You may need to correct the grammar also. The last sentence is probably something that only makes sense in English. "To have a bad attitude" may be an idiom meaning to have a poor outlook on life and towards others in general.


    Он всегда кажется так гневный со серьезным выражением лица. У него было плохое отношение.

    "He always seems so angry with a serious expression on his face. He had a bad attitude."
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    Он всегда кажется так гневный со серьезным выражением лица. У него было плохое отношение.
    First of all, I'll fix it:
    Он всегда кажется таким сердитым с серьёзным выражением лица. У него было плохое отношение к .... .
    I think that you should say what he had a bad attitude towards.

    What about the word 'апатия'? apathy?
    -У него была апатия.
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    IN English we can say that "He had a bad attitude" and it is understood. What would be the equivalent in Russian? Also, what is wrong with using this word " гневный" ?
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    I think you can say гневный. It's just probably my preference for the word сердитый.
    If you mean that he was in no mood to do anything you can say - у него была апатия ко всему. Maybe, someone else will come up with something better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DDT
    IN English we can say that "He had a bad attitude" and it is understood. What would be the equivalent in Russian? Also, what is wrong with using this word " гневный" ?
    it's a rare word, it sounds rather bookish, and I would not use it to describe a person. Maybe you could say "u nego byl gnevnyj vid" -- (he looked angry.

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    The most imortant is that the original sentence should be correct.
    At least, it's not as rare as восьмеро!
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    May be the last sentence can be translated as "Он видел всё в чёрном свете"

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    Yeah, of course, you can translate it like that! I'm sure there are tons of ways of saying 'he had a bad attitude' in Russian. But remembering them may take some time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by laxxy
    Quote Originally Posted by DDT
    IN English we can say that "He had a bad attitude" and it is understood. What would be the equivalent in Russian? Also, what is wrong with using this word " гневный" ?
    it's a rare word, it sounds rather bookish, and I would not use it to describe a person. Maybe you could say "u nego byl gnevnyj vid" -- (he looked angry.
    That sucks!! I found this word in my copy of "New Penguin Russian". In the past I have only used сердитый.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rostova
    May be the last sentence can be translated as "Он видел всё в чёрном свете"
    Ooh! I like that. It sounds to me, a little poetic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rostova
    May be the last sentence can be translated as "Он видел всё в чёрном свете"
    This is more like "he was very pessimistic/had a negative attitude" or something like that, which may be fine, but it does not imply that the person was quick to anger.

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    Цитаты из Яндекса.

    "Гневное анонимное письмо получила редакция областной газеты «Трибуна». Автор угрожал взорвать автозаправку на улице Минайской в Ужгороде в случае, если пешеходам не будет возвращен тротуар."

    "Продолжая его дело, мы присоединяем свой гневный голос протеста к могучему голосу всей планеты против третьей мировой войны, которую пытаются разжечь ..."

    "Не злоупотребляй голосовыми связками. Помни: тихий, убедительный, если надо гневный голос, влиятельнее крика."

    "Лаура испуганно взглянула на него, удивленная его гневным тоном."
    "...Важно, чтобы форум оставался местом, объединяющим людей, для которых интересны русский язык и культура. ..." - MasterАdmin (из переписки)



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    You can find whatever you want in Yandex. The sentences you wrote seem to be rather bookish. I mean that they're all fine but there's something that make you think they're bookish. I think it's the style.
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    Also none of them has a person as the direct object: "u nego byl gnevnyj vid" or "on napisal gnevnoe pis'mo" sound ok even though maybe a bit bookish, but "on byl gnevnyj" doesn't.

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    He had a bad attitude - I suggest "Он был не в духе"

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    Он был не в духе normally refers to a particular event in the past whereas the expression 'he had a bad attitude' means something more specific.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fragdemon
    He had a bad attitude - I suggest "Он был не в духе"
    As I get it, it's not about one particlular time, it's about him in general.

    But I couldn't think of any good translation :/

    EDIT: Oh, ReDSanchous has already said it.

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    Re: Opinions Needed

    Quote Originally Posted by DDT
    "He always seems so angry with a serious expression on his face. He had a bad attitude."
    Why the 1st sentence is in the past and the 2nd is in the present?
    If there is the comma after "angry", the translation was right: "У него всегда такой сердитый, серьезный вид". Without it, it can be like "Когда у него серьезный вид, он всегда кажется сердитым. Он легко раздражался(???)"

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    You are right. There should have been a comma after angry. However the change in tense from present to past is intentional.
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    Quote Originally Posted by laxxy
    Also none of them has a person as the direct object: "u nego byl gnevnyj vid" or "on napisal gnevnoe pis'mo" sound ok even though maybe a bit bookish, but "on byl gnevnyj" doesn't.
    "Он был гневный" мне звучит странно. По-моему, так не говорят.
    Нормально было бы "Он был в гневе". [/quote]
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