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    What's the adjective for Jewish in Russian? I can't seem to find it anywhere :/
    Would it be евский?
    And how do you call the language of Jewish?

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    Еврейский

    And there is an offensive word as well.

    Hebrew - Иврит (which is also what the language calls itself).

    But my dictionary also says Еврейский язык
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    Причём в русском слово Jewish имеет 2 значения

    еврей и иудей
    еврейский и иудейский

    еврей - национальность
    иудей - вера

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    But my dictionary also says Еврейский язык
    можно и так сказать но это не очень правильно/популярно

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dimitri
    But my dictionary also says Еврейский язык
    можно и так сказать но это не очень правильно/популярно
    Как они сами называют? Идиш?
    «И всё, что сейчас происходит внутре — тоже является частью вселенной».

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rtyom
    Quote Originally Posted by Dimitri
    But my dictionary also says Еврейский язык
    можно и так сказать но это не очень правильно/популярно
    Как они сами называют? Идиш?
    If I look up Hebrew in my Russian dictionary it says
    Иврит and Еврейский язык

    Ivrit is what the language is called in Hebrew.
    "Jewish language" is inaccurate since there isn't one Jewish language. Yiddish used to be much more widely spoken than Hebrew. And then there are languages like Ladino.
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    Ah, I've simply never compared these two words... I could've guessed myself. Thanks.
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    that's the one I meant - Yiddish.
    I'm trying to say that I went to Jewish theatre in Cracow and saw a play in Yiddish, that's why I need the words.
    In that case it would be еврейский театр, right?
    And the language, is it Идиш or Иврит after all?

    Thanks a lot for the help

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    Quote Originally Posted by kamka
    And the language, is it Идиш or Иврит after all?
    Yiddish - Идиш
    Hebrew - Иврит

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    Quote Originally Posted by gRomoZeka
    Quote Originally Posted by kamka
    And the language, is it Идиш or Иврит after all?
    Yiddish - Идиш
    Hebrew - Иврит
    Yiddish is like a dialect of German, and was spoken by the Jews in Eastern Europe and Russia.

    Hebrew was the ancient language in which (some of?) the Bible was written. It pretty much died out as an everyday language until the 20th century when a revival took place (largley credited to a man from Belarus', then Russian Empire). After the creation of Israel in the 40s Hebrew as a living language took off, and now it is main language of Israel, while Yiddish is on the decline, mostly because 1. A large proportion of Yiddish speakers were killed in the holocaust, 2. The ones who escaped went to Israel, where Hebrew took over, or to America, UK, France.

    Hebrew is a semitic language related to Arabic and some other languages.

    In Krakow is will have been Yiddish.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TATY
    Quote Originally Posted by gRomoZeka
    Quote Originally Posted by kamka
    And the language, is it Идиш or Иврит after all?
    Yiddish - Идиш
    Hebrew - Иврит
    Yiddish is like a dialect of German, and was spoken by the Jews in Eastern Europe and Russia.

    Hebrew was the ancient language in which (some of?) the Bible was written. It pretty much died out as an everyday language until the 20th century when a revival took place (largley credited to a man from Belarus', then Russian Empire). After the creation of Israel in the 40s Hebrew as a living language took off, and now it is main language of Israel, while Yiddish is on the decline, mostly because 1. A large proportion of Yiddish speakers were killed in the holocaust, 2. The ones who escaped went to Israel, where Hebrew took over, or to America, UK, France.

    Hebrew is a semitic language related to Arabic and some other languages.

    In Krakow is will have been Yiddish.
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    thanks TATY.

    So is it ok to say "актёры говорили по Идиш", or does it require a different construction?

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    Актёры говорили на идиш(е).
    «И всё, что сейчас происходит внутре — тоже является частью вселенной».

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    He lived in Luzhki, which at the time was in the Villinus Guberniya, but the town Luzhki now is in the Republic of Belarus'.

    http://globus.tut.by/luzhki/index.htm
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    Quote Originally Posted by TATY
    (largley credited to a man from Belarus', then Russian Empire).
    that was Eliezer Ben Yeuda, his son was the first man ever to speak real Hebrew.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Remyisme
    Quote Originally Posted by TATY
    (largley credited to a man from Belarus', then Russian Empire).
    that was Eliezer Ben Yeuda, his son was the first man ever to speak real Hebrew.
    Yeah, he decided that Hebrew would be his son's first language, so exposed him only to Hebrew. It is said that one day he caught his wife singing the son a Russian lullaby, so he beat her.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TATY
    Hebrew was the ancient language in which (some of?) the Bible was written.
    The larger part of it actually. In connection with the Bible, it's usually called древнееврейский (язык). I am not sure how it compares to Hebrew spoken in Israel today. I suppose it has been modernized in some ways.

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    yes, of course it's modernized.
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    It saves the most of the ancient original grammar and vocabulary. Its modernization mainly covers:
    1) new words necessary to describe the facts of the nowdays life;
    2) simplified phonetic system. Some specific original sounds disappeared, many of them became indistinguishable. However, the Hebrew spelling keeps its tradition. And it causes the problems for a Hebrew learner since the spelling is not phonetically predictable any longer, despite that was.

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    I have a friend who is an ancient Hebrew teacher, who has told me that ancient Hebrew is a little different from modern Hebrew due to influx of new words.
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