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    Quote Originally Posted by impulse View Post
    So is it like this?

    Я хочу красней машины - I want a car with a specific color.
    Я хочу машину - I want a car. More general
    No, я хочу красной машины is not possible. That's not about its color, it's about the fact that you imply only one car so you can't really say that you want a part of a car. That'd sound ridiculous, wouldn't it? So Я хочу красную машину is the only correct usage.

    However if you go with a plural you may use genitive because as I said many cars can be considered just as a part of something bigger. Like you want two cars out of those 5 cars. See the logic?

    Я хочу красные машины and Я хочу красных машин are both possible

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    Quote Originally Posted by iCake View Post
    No, я хочу красной машины is not possible. That's not about its color, it's about the fact that you imply only one car so you can't really say that you want a part of a car. That'd sound ridiculous, wouldn't it? So Я хочу красную машину is the only correct usage.

    However if you go with a plural you may use genitive because as I said many cars can be considered just as a part of something bigger. Like you want two cars out of those 5 cars. See the logic?

    Я хочу красные машины and Я хочу красных машин are both possible

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    If you're a monster who eats cars, you might say:

    я хочу машины

    "I could really go for some car right about now."
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    Quote Originally Posted by John_Douglas View Post
    If you're a monster who eats cars, you might say:

    я хочу машины

    "I could really go for some car right about now."
    Well, I don't see how it is connected with eating here
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    Quote Originally Posted by John_Douglas View Post
    If you're a monster who eats cars, you might say:

    я хочу машины

    "I could really go for some car right about now."
    Not really. Such monster can say Я хочу металла, Я хочу пластмассы, Я хочу колес. You can use only something uncountable in singular from here (and the word машина doesn't fit). We don't say Я хочу бутерброда, Я хочу булочки (not plural nominative!). If something is countable it cannot be used in such way.
    In plural - almost anything you want, though Я хочу машин and Я хочу столов do not sound very natural to me. I would not say like that.

    Another thing is "мне хочется".
    I'd say Мне хочется булочки sounds better than Я хочу булочки, but I'm not sure it is correct.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bublinka View Post
    ...Another thing is "мне хочется".
    I'd say Мне хочется булочки sounds better than Я хочу булочки, but I'm not sure it is correct.
    Я бы ожидала какой-нибудь глагол после хочется: Мне хочется поесть, поспать, пойти погулять.
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