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    Abt negative pronouns

    In Alphadictionary I see divided negative pronouns into two classes:
    a) simple negative pronouns (ни-) )and b) 'ever so existent "nonexistence" pronouns' (нé-). However their use is rather clear, could you say to me the meaning of this phrase: 'ever so existent "nonexistence" ... ? Thanks.

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    How can we know?
    "Россия для русских" - это неправильно. Остальные-то чем лучше?

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    Perhaps

    Quote Originally Posted by it-ogo View Post
    How can we know?
    I think that perhaps the translation would be: 'Pronouns indicating the "non-existence" of something sometimes existing (не-)' in front of 'pronouns indicating the absence at all (ни-)', but I'm not sure.
    The other classification seen is: pronouns beginnin in не- in front of pronouns beginning in ни-, what is like dividing men in tall, middle-size and short .

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    I still don't see any clear sense in all of that. Некоторые - just "some", несколько - just "several" without any existential metaphysics.

    All I can is to provide my own comments about the stuff.

    "Ни-" pronouns provide negation:
    1) Negative when used as separate sentences.
    2) Otherwise do not contain negation by themselves but used only with negations.

    "Не-" pronouns provide uncertainty of all kings. (Usually stronger, more emphasized uncertainty than "-то", "-либо", "-нибудь" pronouns.) Некоторые - "some of them but we don't know (or don't want to mention specifically) which exactly" etc.
    "Россия для русских" - это неправильно. Остальные-то чем лучше?

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    Don’t rack your brains over it, Radomir. This article isn’t worth it.

    Negative Pronouns

    Who on earth classified these words like that? The whole table is weird. They seem to have included all parts of speech in it.

    Actually only никто, ничто, никакой, нисколько, нечего from the table are negative pronouns.
    Местоимение — Википедия

    Некто is an indefinite personal pronoun.

    Несколько is a numeral.
    http://ushakovdictionary.ru/word.php?wordid=35782

    Никак, нигде, никуда, ниоткуда, никогда, негде, некуда, неоткуда, некогда are adverbs.
    http://ushakovdictionary.ru/word.php?wordid=36176
    http://ushakovdictionary.ru/word.php?wordid=36096
    http://ushakovdictionary.ru/word.php?wordid=36201
    http://ushakovdictionary.ru/word.php?wordid=36216
    http://ushakovdictionary.ru/word.php?wordid=36191
    http://ushakovdictionary.ru/word.php?wordid=34851
    http://ushakovdictionary.ru/word.php?wordid=35240
    http://ushakovdictionary.ru/word.php?wordid=35429
    http://ushakovdictionary.ru/word.php?wordid=35214

    I don’t think it’s wise to learn Russian using this pseudoscientific resourse.


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    Thank you for your help.

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    Забавно. С утра в этой ветке последним был мой пост следующего содержания.

    Вот и пойми вас. Одни "лайкают" и говорят "спасибо", другие называют мои посты, содержащие аргументацию и доказательства, признаком графомании. Как всем угодить?

    Могу я узнать, какие правила форума я нарушила этим постом? Или модератор имеет право убирать все, что ему просто не нравится? Я не понимаю принципы такой цензуры.

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