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    избоина What's the sense of this word? usage, frequency, popularity? Thanks

    The only Oxford definition of this is "oil-cake" some sort of leftover from oil-processing. But I found the word in a synonym list of words for "opening", "mouth" and similar. So I am not getting the sense of the word, and do not understand why Oxford left it out. Roots of words help me get the meanings, but I am apparently overlooking the sense. В каком смысле этого слова? избоина

    Maybe give me some simple sentences? Thanks

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    Where the hell did you pick up this word? I've never ever heard it in my 24 years long Russian life

    Well, as for the word my Russian brain imagined a hole in a road but apparently the Russian definition dictionary disagrees with me. It says this:

    остатки семян масличных растений после выжимания из них масла; жмых, дуранда.

    And BIG SUPRISE the Google Translate gives up the word "oilcake" for жмых

    Well, okay let's do that the old-fashioned way I mean by explaing the word. So this word illustrates what is left after oily seeds (like sunflower seeds) are squashed to get oil out of them

    I hope this helps but I'd like to warn you. I'd never ever use избоина for that meaning I'd use жмых instead
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    As a native speaker I can say that I see this word for the first time in my life. I think it's professional term or professional slang.

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    thanks

    Quote Originally Posted by bublinka View Post
    As a native speaker I can say that I see this word for the first time in my life. I think it's professional term or professional slang.
    Thanks, and I'm getting the visual now that it means something "banged out", "squeezed out" since бой means "hit", or implies some sort of violence, and из "out of" But it you say it is a pretty useless word I think that's enough. What do you think of my amateur, I am not a native Russian, etymology?
    cheers!

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    Quote Originally Posted by perrea View Post
    Thanks, and I'm getting the visual now that it means something "banged out", "squeezed out" since бой means "hit", or implies some sort of violence, and из "out of" But it you say it is a pretty useless word I think that's enough. What do you think of my amateur, I am not a native Russian, etymology?
    cheers!
    I think you may be right in your etymology, but as far I as understand language development processes it is very difficult to get that sort of things correct. Even if I know the meaning of "из" and "боина" (from the words like "выбоина", "пробоина") I cannot guess the meaning of "избоина".

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    But I found the word in a synonym list of words for "opening", "mouth" and similar.
    The only thing that comes to my mind regarding "избоина" and mouth open is a fishing lure.
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    Thanks, and I'm getting the visual now that it means something "banged out", "squeezed out" since бой means "hit", or implies some sort of violence
    Зуботычина is the word you describe. Means "One hit at the teeth".
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    That is discouraging. Nonetheless, big thanks

    Quote Originally Posted by bublinka View Post
    I think you may be right in your etymology, but as far I as understand language development processes it is very difficult to get that sort of things correct. Even if I know the meaning of "из" and "боина" (from the words like "выбоина", "пробоина") I cannot guess the meaning of "избоина".
    Discouraging that we cannot try to guess by putting (what we know) together about the roots. It is all we (non-native Russian students) have to go by when we encounter a new word.

    Thanks for being honest with me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iCake View Post
    Well, as for the word my Russian brain imagined a hole in a road
    Same for me, it's because of similar word "выбоина".

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